Following potential 2012 draftees

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Rivers does have great body control and an elite handle. It makes me think he could do some of the things a young Manu Ginobli did, just by out-maneuvering people.

Lamb could be elite, but his body language and care-free style this year at UConn was a bit concerning.

 

[Fishsticks]

With their second lottery pick Jazz should take whichever guard is left: Marshall, Lillard, or Rivers.

they all have their positives and negatives so don't reach.

Agree with this.

 

[Fishsticks]

Rivers and Lamb are both going to be studs in the NBA, and almost everyone here is not so high on them . You all are crazy and are going to be eating crow in a couple years.


Rivers will be better than both Lillard and Marshall

Lamb will be the best shooting guard in this draft. And I believe he will be an Allstar at some point too.
(I'm predicting Rivers will play point, if not I say Lamb will be better than Rivers.)

If the Jazz can land either one then I will be extremely happy.

You have not seen Mr. Beal. That is the best SG in this class bar none.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Austin Rivers = Jamal Crawford.

 

[Fishsticks]

Austin Rivers = Jamal Crawford.

Is this bad or good in your opinion? I personally see him being nothing like Crawford. I like him in a three gurard rotation. I would snag him and lillard, maybe Marshall, and call it a draft. Burks, Lillard and Rivers would be an awesome rotation.

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

You have not seen Mr. Beal. That is the best SG in this class bar none.

Agree

Austin Rivers = Jamal Crawford.

and agree

 

[Dr. Jones]

I don't know if I can come up with a quantitative answer. I'm not really a stat guy. Especially college stats. I just see a guy who has great athleticism, he can shoot and drive. And he knows how to play winning basketball. I try to spot an Alpha dog. And Lamb to me screams Alpha dog. I mostly Judge players off the eyeball test . My opinion might change slighty on some players once I see their measurables too, but I doubt I will feel different about Lamb.

It's a crapshoot for guys like us because we can't actually get down on a court and evaluate a player. So its mostly a hunch. I have been pretty good about picking which players turn out good too. So I'm fairly confident I'll be right about him.

Lamb does not have elite athleticism, though maybe slightly above average. He shot an unimpressive 33% from behind the arc, though did shoot very well inside the arc. He ranks near last of SG's in assists per possession (18th of the top 21). He was a winner when Kemba was on the team. This year, he and Andre Drummond nearly missed the NCAA tourney (should have) and got ousted early by Royce White and Iowa State. I'm not big on Jlamb.

 

[Dr. Jones]

Beal is the safe bet. Rivers is the intriguing prospect. JLamb is a yawner.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Is this bad or good in your opinion? I personally see him being nothing like Crawford. I like him in a three gurard rotation. I would snag him and lillard, maybe Marshall, and call it a draft. Burks, Lillard and Rivers would be an awesome rotation.

It is what it is. Streak shooter who can light it up, or be cold. Not an elite athlete, but a good athlete with excellent ball control and dribbling. He seems almost like a carbon copy of Crawford to me. He does that size-up dribble, pull up 3 pointer move a lot, just like Crawford loves to do.

Crawford played for crappy teams most of his career and never really adapted his style to winning until he started coming off the bench for the good Atlanta teams. I could see the same thing happening to Rivers if he ends up in a bad situation, or he could be a pretty good SG if he figures everything out and doesn't try to be a star.

Main difference is that Crawford doesn't have a weird release and can hit FT's.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Lamb does not have elite athleticism, though maybe slightly above average. He shot an unimpressive 33% from behind the arc, though did shoot very well inside the arc. He ranks near last of SG's in assists per possession (18th of the top 21). He was a winner when Kemba was on the team. This year, he and Andre Drummond nearly missed the NCAA tourney (should have) and got ousted early by Royce White and Iowa State. I'm not big on Jlamb.

Yeah, that is the biggest negative for Lamb to me. The lack of being able to really carry Uconn to a respectable record.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Yeah, that is the biggest negative for Lamb to me. The lack of being able to really carry Uconn to a respectable record.

Lamb has a lot of natural ability and decent quickness. I think there's an issue with attitude and iq. I could see him being a player like Monta Ellis, a streaky, but decent scorer who takes plays off.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Lamb has a lot of natural ability and decent quickness. I think there's an issue with attitude and iq. I could see him being a player like Monta Ellis, a streaky, but decent scorer who takes plays off.

I don't hate the guy, just don't see any point of taking him. There are more interesting prospects on the board when/if we draft at 13/14.