Following potential 2012 draftees

[Dr. Jones]

And maybe with Marshall handing out the assists Miller could become Barnes-lite. PLUS defense.

Miller may be better than Barnes at everything other than killer scoring instincts.

Height / length = too close to call
Strength = Miller
Perimeter shooting = too close to call
Handles = Miller
Passing = Miller
Rebounding = Miller
Post play = Miller
Intangibles = Miller
Defense = Miller

Only knock is he's passive on offense (defers too much). Calipari shook him up a little this year because he would bench him for passing up open looks .. so he became more assertive. If he keeps it up, he could be the steal of the draft in the late 1st / early 2nd.

Disclaimer: I am acutely aware how homerish that all sounded, but I do believe it all.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Miller may be better than Barnes at everything other than killer scoring instincts.

Height / length = too close to call
Strength = Miller
Perimeter shooting = too close to call
Handles = Miller
Passing = Miller
Rebounding = Miller
Post play = Miller
Intangibles = Miller
Defense = Miller

Only knock is he's passive on offense (defers too much). Calipari shook him up a little this year because he would bench him for passing up open looks .. so he became more assertive. If he keeps it up, he could be the steal of the draft in the late 1st / early 2nd.

Disclaimer: I am acutely aware how homerish that all sounded, but I do believe it all.

It's very homerish and completely wrong.

 

[NAOS]

so Miller's stock has risen? He was mid-second in most of the mocks I saw a while ago, and now you all are discussion first round. Doesn't surprise me, but that sucks for us.

 

[spycam1]

Miller may be better than Barnes at everything other than killer scoring instincts.

Height / length = too close to call
Strength = Miller
Perimeter shooting = too close to call
Handles = Miller
Passing = Miller
Rebounding = Miller
Post play = Miller
Intangibles = Miller
Defense = Miller

Only knock is he's passive on offense (defers too much). Calipari shook him up a little this year because he would bench him for passing up open looks .. so he became more assertive. If he keeps it up, he could be the steal of the draft in the late 1st / early 2nd.

Disclaimer: I am acutely aware how homerish that all sounded, but I do believe it all.

 

[Dr. Jones]

It's very homerish and completely wrong.

I can accept that it may be wrong. Please point out exactly what Barnes is better at that I said Miller is .. and don't pull a Cy and say 'everything' or some other cop out.

 

[Dr. Jones]

so Miller's stock has risen? He was mid-second in most of the mocks I saw a while ago, and now you all are discussion first round. Doesn't surprise me, but that sucks for us.

I'm not hearing late first, but am hearing early 2nd.

 

[spycam1]

I'm not hearing late first, but am hearing early 2nd.

I thought you were hearing that the Spurs were going to grab him in the first?

 

[Dr. Jones]

I thought you were hearing that the Spurs were going to grab him in the first?

No. I was hearing that the Spurs are trying to find ways to be assured they can nab him. There was no details aside from that.

 

[trigg3r]

No. I was hearing that the Spurs are trying to find ways to be assured they can nab him. There was no details aside from that.

If the Spurs are looking to nab him then there is a good reason for it. Maybe we can move up in the 2nd round and grab him.

 

[Stoked]

How many 2nd round picks do we have this year?

 

[margodydek]

I thought you were hearing that the Spurs were going to grab him in the first?

SA traded their 1st rounder to GS in the Jackson/Jefferson deal.

 

[Dr. Jones]

It's very homerish and completely wrong.

So I posted my gut feel. Instead, I will post facts. I think most agree the two most talented teams in the NCAA this year was UNC and UK. In other words, one does not have any real advantage because of the players they were playing with .. Also, they played very similar minutes (2 minutes separate) so I adjusted numbers to 30 minutes.

Facts;
Height = same
Strength = it's Miller (but I have no proof of that)
Perimeter shooting = Miller by 2% (I said too close to call in my original post)
Handles = Not exactly sure how to quantify, but they both averaged exactly 2 to's per game. (My eyeball test says it's Miller, but close)
Passing = I said Miller .. Miller averaged 2 apg to Barnes' 1 apg
Rebounding = I got this one wrong (it's actually 5.3rpg for Barnes vs. 3.0 for Miller) = My bad
Post play = Miller and there's no credible debate
Intangibles = subjective .. but I feel strongly it's Miller
Defense = Miller is similar to MKG in that he defended all 5 positions at different points this year .. I don't see Barnes as that versatile.

FG% = Miller by 3.4%
FT% = Miller by 7.4%

If one were to line up the stats, side-by-side, it would be difficult to determine which was the top 8 pick vs. the 2nd rounder. That was actually my point.