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We should go after a pg in the second if we don't trade into the first for one. I think pg in the second is bigger bang for our buck. Watching Parker destroy both Harris and Tinsley, pg might be our biggest need.
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We should go after a pg in the second if we don't trade into the first for one. I think pg in the second is bigger bang for our buck. Watching Parker destroy both Harris and Tinsley, pg might be our biggest need.
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PKM, who are the top second round pg prospects? If the jazz take a pg in round #2 who would you want to see the jazz get?
My main concern with him is that he is rail thin.
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In the second round you really need to look for a niche player that fills a need which is why I want one of the best shooters in the NCAA. Trying to find a guy to play against Parker in the second round will bring nothing but heartbreak for you.
Personally, I’m higher on Marshall than most. I too believe that his “floor-general” skills (passing, vision, ballhandling, ability to lead the break) are superior and only appear in a few PG prospects every decade. What he lacks in scoring ability, he makes up for in other areas. However, don’t forget that he in the last month of the season (when he REALLY won me over), he really came on offensively. I would argue that he was the best player in America during that stretch outside of Anthony Davis.
Ultimately, I’m skeptical about making an aggressive move to draft him. I predict that he’ll test out as a better athlete than expected at the draft combine, and will ultimately be a top 5/top 6 pick. Those picks don’t come cheap. I would hate to part with any of Hayward, Burks (I believe that’s our starting 2/3 in the near future), Favors (ha!) or Kanter. It’s also a serious risk to part with either Al or Paul at this juncture – this team is looking to compete right now, and giving up either is banking on Enes becoming a major contributor next season. The only one of those six I would be comfortable losing via trade is Burks, but I question how much other teams would value him. Plus, if you trade Alec, you then have a gaping hole at the 2/3 spot.
On the other hand, I would love to have Kendall going forward. He’s the type of player you could build a PG-friendly system around, a style of basketball which has been our bread and butter for going on 30 years now. He will never crack the echelon of Paul, Williams, Rose (pre-injury), Westbrook, and co., but I could see him being a top-10 PG for the next decade and consistently hovering around the top 2-3 assist leaders in the league (9-11 APG, 13-15ppg). That is absolutely worth a top-5 pick in damn near any draft.
It’s definitely an option for our PG hunt. One of our more intriguing ones. I’d still prefer to see Nash in a Jazz uni for the next 2 (preferably) to 3 seasons at around $9/$10m per, and letting our long-term PG solution unfold a little more naturally than a roster-shaking trade. But we’ll see. If Kendall is the guy, Utah Jazz summer league basketball will be must-see TV come July.
Ultimately, I’m skeptical about making an aggressive move to draft him. I predict that he’ll test out as a better athlete than expected at the draft combine, and will ultimately be a top 5/top 6 pick. Those picks don’t come cheap. I would hate to part with any of Hayward, Burks (I believe that’s our starting 2/3 in the near future), Favors (ha!) or Kanter. It’s also a serious risk to part with either Al or Paul at this juncture – this team is looking to compete right now, and giving up either is banking on Enes becoming a major contributor next season. The only one of those six I would be comfortable losing via trade is Burks, but I question how much other teams would value him. Plus, if you trade Alec, you then have a gaping hole at the 2/3 spot.
On the other hand, I would love to have Kendall going forward. He’s the type of player you could build a PG-friendly system around, a style of basketball which has been our bread and butter for going on 30 years now. He will never crack the echelon of Paul, Williams, Rose (pre-injury), Westbrook, and co., but I could see him being a top-10 PG for the next decade and consistently hovering around the top 2-3 assist leaders in the league (9-11 APG, 13-15ppg). That is absolutely worth a top-5 pick in damn near any draft.
It’s definitely an option for our PG hunt. One of our more intriguing ones. I’d still prefer to see Nash in a Jazz uni for the next 2 (preferably) to 3 seasons at around $9/$10m per, and letting our long-term PG solution unfold a little more naturally than a roster-shaking trade. But we’ll see. If Kendall is the guy, Utah Jazz summer league basketball will be must-see TV come July.
I think Marshall could be the same player Kidd was post-30.
Truth. On the other hand, he wasn't really coached up and I think he's very far from his ceiling.
Close, maybe ... just not as fast.
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Wow! Jason Kidd is LOFTY! 30 year old version or not, he is no Kidd. Seriously, other than court awareness and passingwhat does he bring? He does not board like Kidd nor is he the athlete Kidd was (thats not saying much). He is not the scorer Kidd was either. He is an average PG at best IMO.
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And why would anyone want to trade Burks at this point? the most dispointing young for me is Kanter by a mile. Im not sure he turns into anything more than Al Jefferson at the most. I believe Goran is the short term answer for the PG spot. He seems like a Jazz player to me. He is very gritty and has a desire to win. This offseason we need to address the lack of shooting ability our current players have. I think Goran fixes two holes. If we can trade Jefferson or Kanter for a top 10 pick im all for it, but i dont think anyone will be banging on our door to make this happen.
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Also if any GM thought that he was a younger version of post 30 Kidd he goes number 2 no doubt. Thats not even close to the case. He is more Mark Jackson than anything else. Kidd? LMFAO!