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NAOS said:
I'm calling NO WAY on a Kanter deal.
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I don't know about that.. I think the door is more open than that.

Think about this: 1) Kanter is a load downlow and he has the potential to be a franchise player. But it was also apparently clear that he's never gonna be a shot blocker or a leaper. Very little lift plus he's not a 7 footer like Marc Gasol. 2) Millsap has 1 year left, so what better time to get the most for him now.

Then Houston's 2 picks. What if: 1) Marshall/Lillard/Rivers fall to #14; 2) We can get a solid SF with the 2nd pick at #16 (i.e., Q Miller).

So we're looking at: Kanter & 1 year of Millsap VS Rivers & Q Miller.

I dunno, if I were KOC I'd have to at least sleep on it.
 
Hotttnickkk said:
I don't know about that.. I think the door is more open than that.

Think about this: 1) Kanter is a load downlow and he has the potential to be a franchise player. But it was also apparently clear that he's never gonna be a shot blocker or a leaper. Very little lift plus he's not a 7 footer like Marc Gasol. 2) Millsap has 1 year left, so what better time to get the most for him now.

Then Houston's 2 picks. What if: 1) Marshall/Lillard/Rivers fall to #14; 2) We can get a solid SF with the 2nd pick at #16 (i.e., Q Miller).

So we're looking at: Kanter & 1 year of Millsap VS Rivers & Q Miller.

I dunno, if I were KOC I'd have to at least sleep on it.
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I like the addition that you are talking about, but you are missing a huge part to all of this. That part us known as Big Al.

Call it addition by subtraction. Call it whatever you want. I cannot handle another season of Jefferson for 30+ minutes a game, killing the flow and defense of this team.

Jefferson has to be dealt.
 
orangello said:
I like the addition that you are talking about, but you are missing a huge part to all of this. That part us known as Big Al.

Call it addition by subtraction. Call it whatever you want. I cannot handle another season of Jefferson for 30+ minutes a game, killing the flow and defense of this team.

Jefferson has to be dealt.
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Prepare yourself.
 
orangello said:
I like the addition that you are talking about, but you are missing a huge part to all of this. That part us known as Big Al.

Call it addition by subtraction. Call it whatever you want. I cannot handle another season of Jefferson for 30+ minutes a game, killing the flow and defense of this team.

Jefferson has to be dealt.
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I don't like it either. I know Al is not ideal to have. But so is Millsap? At least Al has the length and he's improving as a passer. Millsap is forever going to be undersized. I think what Al lacks, Favors makes up for.

What are we going to lose next season by parting ways with Millsap & Kanter? Alright, Millsap is clutch. But scoring wise, we can still count on Al for at least 18pt, you add to that the hustle of a starting Favors and hopefully you don't miss Millsap's hustle so much.

Watch this now: this deal could effectively puts us a lock for years to come at PG (Rivers) and SF (Q Miller). We already have Hayward a lock at SG and Favors at PF. That's 4/5 positions locked up. OK we have to put up with Al, but what he lacks, Favors makes up for hopefully.

Edit: We always complain about our lack of shooting - this effectively puts us over the 'above average' rung IMO.
 
Hotttnickkk said:
I don't like it either. I know Al is not ideal to have. But so is Millsap? At least Al has the length and he's improving as a passer. Millsap is forever going to be undersized. I think what Al lacks, Favors makes up for.

What are we going to lose next season by parting ways with Millsap & Kanter? Alright, Millsap is clutch. But scoring wise, we can still count on Al for at least 18pt, you add to that the hustle of a starting Favors and hopefully you don't miss Millsap's hustle so much.

Watch this now: this deal could effectively puts us a lock for years to come at PG (Rivers) and SF (Q Miller). We already have Hayward a lock at SG and Favors at PF. That's 4/5 positions locked up. OK we have to put up with Al, but what he lacks, Favors makes up for hopefully.

Edit: We always complain about our lack of shooting - this effectively puts us over the 'above average' rung IMO.
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All of those players are good additions but Jefferson could hurt their development.

I see a Rivers/Hayward/Miller/Favors line up being quick and pushing the ball. You add Jefferson to that mix and suddenly that changes the offensive and defensive schemes that will be run.

I just don't want Jefferson.
 
orangello said:
All of those players are good additions but Jefferson could hurt their development.

I see a Rivers/Hayward/Miller/Favors line up being quick and pushing the ball. You add Jefferson to that mix and suddenly that changes the offensive and defensive schemes that will be run.

I just don't want Jefferson.
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You don't need everyone to run. If we have Rivers/Hayward/Miller/Favors, I don't think you'd have to tell Jefferson to 'run' everytime there is a fast break.

Look at OKC, they run all the time and you don't see them getting rid of Perkins.
 
orangello said:
All of those players are good additions but Jefferson could hurt their development.

I see a Rivers/Hayward/Miller/Favors line up being quick and pushing the ball. You add Jefferson to that mix and suddenly that changes the offensive and defensive schemes that will be run.

I just don't want Jefferson.
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If we could amnesty Jefferson and play lineups like:

Nash/Hayward/Miller/Favors/Signed Center
Rivers/Burks/Evans/xxxx/xxxx

That seems decent, but I'm not sure it's really worth giving up Kanter for.
 
mhindy said:
If we could amnesty Jefferson and play lineups like:

Nash/Hayward/Miller/Favors/Signed Center
Rivers/Burks/Evans/xxxx/xxxx

That seems decent, but I'm not sure it's really worth giving up Kanter for.
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Also worth noting is how the league has changed. I've been following the playoffs and there seems to be less need/emphasis on having a solid 'pivot' not to mention needing to have x2 (Favors & Kanter). Memphis got ousted even though they have Marc Gasol & Randolph. May be having a stud in Favors is sufficient (ala Orlando)?

Seems to me, having a more complete - running & gunning teams with dynamic guards & SF shooting & going to the line seems to be the winning formula (OKC, Heat). May be the sign of that hand-checking rule coming into effect?
 
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