Following potential 2014 draftees

[UGLI baby]

I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere, I'm no scout so I'm probably wrong. Bill Simmons loves Gordon. And in his article today he's talking about how he was wrong about MKG. Said something like "turns out your wing players need to be able to shoot, not just jump high and defend well." And I'm just reading it like:

Hopefully one of the smart dudes can tell me why it's different. Still want Gordon at 5!

 

[8]

2 things...


1. Gordon can really handle the ball and is an elite passer, ... so he can make an impact on the offensive side that way even if he is not shooting or scoring.


2. Gordon's shot seems a lot less "broke" than MKG.

Elite passer? You clearly use this adjective more freely than I do.

It's hard to make plays for others in the halfcourt if you aren't a threat to score. You can be a good dribbler and passer, but if you can't score you'll never draw the extra guy. I think it's safe to assume that you aren't drafting Gordon to make plays in the halfcourt, and I don't know why anyone would have expected MKG to do so.

 

[Bawse Dawg]

Elite passer? You clearly use this adjective more freely than I do.

It's hard to make plays for others in the halfcourt if you aren't a threat to score. You can be a good dribbler and passer, but if you can't score you'll never draw the extra guy. I think it's safe to assume that you aren't drafting Gordon to make plays in the halfcourt, and I don't know why anyone would have expected MKG to do so.

Well he was drafted #2 and is considered extremely disappointing/bust to most. Has he performed to the level you thought he would? And would you expect Gordon to be much better?

No idea if you are a Gordon homer or hater tbh.

 

[The Midnight]

Elite passer? You clearly use this adjective more freely than I do.

It's hard to make plays for others in the halfcourt if you aren't a threat to score. You can be a good dribbler and passer, but if you can't score you'll never draw the extra guy. I think it's safe to assume that you aren't drafting Gordon to make plays in the halfcourt, and I don't know why anyone would have expected MKG to do so.

You've admitted to not having watched more than 10 min. of Gordon's film.



#CaseClosed

 

[8]

Well he was drafted #2 and is considered extremely disappointing/bust to most. Has he performed to the level you thought he would? And would you expect Gordon to be much better?

No idea if you are a Gordon homer or hater tbh.

I wasn't a big fan of MKG @ #2 at all, don't really hate him as a player though, and I don't hate Gordon either. He's going to be a dynamite defensive player, I just don't expect much offense, and see him having to play 4 on offense quite a bit initially because of his skill level, especially on the Jazz because their spacing is pathetic already.

But I don't know anything about any of these west coast guys tbh. Adams, Gordon, Lavine, etc.

 

[dy47]

my only wish for this draft is to get K.J. McDaniels

 

[Bawse Dawg]

I wasn't a big fan of MKG @ #2 at all, don't really hate him as a player though, and I don't hate Gordon either. He's going to be a dynamite defensive player, I just don't expect much offense, and see him having to play 4 on offense quite a bit initially because of his skill level, especially on the Jazz because their spacing is pathetic already.

But I don't know anything about any of these west coast guys tbh. Adams, Gordon, Lavine, etc.

But.... Like in a million years I wouldn't trade #5 for MKG. So is Gordon not worth it? You're not really convincing me that Gordon will be a better player.

 

[Bawse Dawg]

Also, unstickied <\3

 

[bigmike]

I really like Gordon's game but he's not a franchise guy. I think 5 is early for him. Hard to stomach that after the year of ******** we just watched.

The FO went into this season with clear intentions to tank and reap the rewards. Fingers crossed they've got something up their sleeves tomorrow night.

 

[8]

But.... Like in a million years I wouldn't trade #5 for MKG. So is Gordon not worth it? You're not really convincing me that Gordon will be a better player.

If he has a work ethic, he'll be a better player.

That's all the draft is about to me anyways and why it's a crapshoot. Whichever players work hardest will likely be the best. Gordon seems like he can guard 1-3 no problem without having to work on anything so that's probably worth a pick at #5. I'm leaning Gordon, but I like Randle's offense, despite all the obvious issues with him. Those two guys present way more risk than Vonleh, who is a safe, bland pick to me. A good player, and will be the best one if the other two don't pan out. Despite hating Smart, he's pretty good, but I don't think he'll ever be an incredibly efficient playmaker in the NBA, but it's probably because I hate him.

 

[The Midnight]

DX had just updated their draft board.... it's Vonleh to the Utah Jazz.



Yay.

 

[Game6Conley]

But.... Like in a million years I wouldn't trade #5 for MKG. So is Gordon not worth it? You're not really convincing me that Gordon will be a better player.

MKG is an obvious comparison, there are some around here who have convinced themselves otherwise.

The last defensive player that wasnt a legitimate Big to go top 5 was MKG. (that alone makes him comparison worthy)

Look at their freshman seasons lined up side to side it's basically identical in scoring, rebounding, assists, blocks,steals, FG%.. their combine measurements are similar aswell.