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Following potential 2014 draftees

cowhide said:
Recently, I haven't been that impressed with the top 5 guys - Parker has shown the most consistency and he struggled for several games. Embiid seems to have taken a step back and Wiggins is painfully inconsistent. I think Randle will struggle in the NBA if he doesn't improve his outside shot and his ball handling skills. They all have holes in their games. I think Parker is the most ready.

What will really be tragic (for Jazzland) if Parker, Wiggins and Embiid stay for another year. Which is a big possibility? The worse part of the draft is not knowing who is actually going to declare. Right now I would not be surprised if Parker and Embiid stayed. I wouldn't be overly shocked if Wiggins stayed. I am pretty sure that Randle will go and EXum has already declared. It would really suck if it was only Randle and Exum in this draft.
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I don't think anyone will stay. If everyone has ups and downs, the #1 team still has to pick someone, no matter how good he is perceived right now. There's simply too many cases of players hurting their stock and opportunities recently by staying in school that I don't think anyone will stay. Most teams with very good draft picks are also headed in the right direction and are healthy organisations. The crappy teams are around 8-14 right now(Clevetank, Joe Dumars, New Orleans, Minnesota, Bobnets). In the top spots there's only the Bucks and Kings as trash organisations, besides the Sixers, Celtics, Magic, Jazz, Lakers with Cleveland being between the 2 groups. And even the Bucks seem to realize that the way they do it isn't attracting fans and neither is it successful way of making money. The Kings have a new owner situation and they wanna line up some borderline playoff teams/stockpile assets before rebuilding around a star and elevate the franchise's reputation with players and their agents.
 
^^I don't think quality of the organization is a huge consideration. Crappy teams usually wind up with the top picks. Only occasionally will you get a decent team jumping up or getting an unprotected pick via trade. And, IINM, players don't know in advance of declaring what the draft order is going to be. Isn't the NBA date late April and the lottery in May? And this year, the "tanking" teams like Boston, Philadelphia, Milwaukee, Utah, the Lakers...they're intent on rebuilding and getting back to the playoffs. Cleveland, Sacramento, Orlando...they'll be in the lottery every year - you just know it.

I know there's a provision that if a player does not retain an agent he can return to school if he drops out of the draft at a certain point. I think that's more utilized by players who might be a little uncertain of their draft potential (1st round and a guaranteed contract, 2nd round, little chance of being drafted?). In the end, I think Embiid and Parker will declare. Going top-5, a great contract, guaranteed $. Yes, I know there's always injury insurance, but that's not 100%. Tear up a knee, get drafted lower, not be quite the same player...that's a huge risk. You let the team take out insurance to cover their risk, not pay for it yourself while playing another year of college ball.
 
Core4 said:
^^I don't think quality of the organization is a huge consideration. Crappy teams usually wind up with the top picks. Only occasionally will you get a decent team jumping up or getting an unprotected pick via trade. And, IINM, players don't know in advance of declaring what the draft order is going to be. Isn't the NBA date late April and the lottery in May? And this year, the "tanking" teams like Boston, Philadelphia, Milwaukee, Utah, the Lakers...they're intent on rebuilding and getting back to the playoffs. Cleveland, Sacramento, Orlando...they'll be in the lottery every year - you just know it.

I know there's a provision that if a player does not retain an agent he can return to school if he drops out of the draft at a certain point. I think that's more utilized by players who might be a little uncertain of their draft potential (1st round and a guaranteed contract, 2nd round, little chance of being drafted?). In the end, I think Embiid and Parker will declare. Going top-5, a great contract, guaranteed $. Yes, I know there's always injury insurance, but that's not 100%. Tear up a knee, get drafted lower, not be quite the same player...that's a huge risk. You let the team take out insurance to cover their risk, not pay for it yourself while playing another year of college ball.
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I think you're massively underestimating the Orlando Magic, who have fielded 2 teams that came very close to the big prize in the last 2 decades. They're classy IMO. I was just pointing out that the teams you're getting drafted by would be no reason to stay in school and they have a very high chance to land in a good organisation instead of catfighting with bitches - Yes Cleveland I'M talking to you.
The rule to return to school was changed and currently you have 10 days after the NCAA tourney to test the waters and after the 10 days you have to decide about returning to school. Maybe it's 7, I don't know exactly. But I know the rule. They'll probably use it, in the 10 days every single team will call them and tell them they're going to pick them top3 if they land a pick in the lottery and then they'll all decide to enter the draft. Right now they're just saying the right things as the schools are trying to sell their jerseys and stuff.
 
Jako said:
for some reason i think the Jazz are going to end up with Doug McDermott
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I keep thinking we are getting Aaron Gordon and that disappoints me. He is a decent player, but my hopes have so set higher . . . on Wiggins, Parker, Embiid, or Exum. Gordon might be #8 or 9 on my list.
 
BTP said:
I think you're massively underestimating the Orlando Magic, who have fielded 2 teams that came very close to the big prize in the last 2 decades. They're classy IMO. I was just pointing out that the teams you're getting drafted by would be no reason to stay in school and they have a very high chance to land in a good organisation instead of catfighting with bitches - Yes Cleveland I'M talking to you.
The rule to return to school was changed and currently you have 10 days after the NCAA tourney to test the waters and after the 10 days you have to decide about returning to school. Maybe it's 7, I don't know exactly. But I know the rule. They'll probably use it, in the 10 days every single team will call them and tell them they're going to pick them top3 if they land a pick in the lottery and then they'll all decide to enter the draft. Right now they're just saying the right things as the schools are trying to sell their jerseys and stuff.
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I think we're agreeing here. They have no reason to stay.
 
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