Game6Conley
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Noah Vonleh's vertical is 2" less than Aaron Gordon's, does that change any opinions on 5-6-7-8-9 ?
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Stifle Tower
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Not mine. Gordon is a better athlete; already knew that. Vonleh can shoot; Gordon can't.
I give the edge to Vonleh, but would not be upset if Lindsey took Gordon instead.
Game6Conley
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my post combine top 25 is
1 Wiggins
2 Embiid
3 Parker
4 Vonleh
5 Exum
6 Randle
7 Saric
8 Ennis
9 McDermott
10 LaVine
11 Smart
12 Gordon
13 Nurkic
14 Warren
15 Hood
16 Stauskas
17 Young
18 Harris
19 Payne
20 Porzingis
21 Hairston
22 Anderson
23 McDaniels
24 Bogdanovic
25 Tavares
1 Wiggins
2 Embiid
3 Parker
4 Vonleh
5 Exum
6 Randle
7 Saric
8 Ennis
9 McDermott
10 LaVine
11 Smart
12 Gordon
13 Nurkic
14 Warren
15 Hood
16 Stauskas
17 Young
18 Harris
19 Payne
20 Porzingis
21 Hairston
22 Anderson
23 McDaniels
24 Bogdanovic
25 Tavares
And McDermott's is only 2.5'' less, but are we going to act like he is a comparable athlete to Gordon?
Can we stop pretending that these numbers mean anything?
Stifle Tower
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Seems like Gordon and Smart really dropped (unless they weren't rated that high to begin with).
I like the prospects in the 19-25 range. Utah could get a very good player that deep. It certainly would make up for losing the Barnes' pick to GS.
enchilada_style
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God lets hope Parker is fat as a cow so we can draft him at 4.
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I have a feeling that when McBuckets is having a Chandler Parsons like career, folks are going to be kicking themselves for passing on him because of his skin color.
Let's face it, the kid can flat out ball. If he weren't white, he'd easily be a top 10... Top 8 draft pick.
He won't be Lebron James. But I'm guessing that he will have a long and productive NBA career. While other highly touted flashy prospects have flamed out.
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The perception has more to do about his religion IMO. There is a perception outside of Utah that Mormons may be weird but they are hardworking and honest. Just saying.
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Telling ya, don't sleep on Khem. I actually really like Adams as well. Saw him a lot in AAU tourneys and always lit it up.
Telling ya, don't sleep on Khem. I actually really like Adams as well. Saw him a lot in AAU tourneys and always lit it up.
seattlejazzfan
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Re: the three players who skipped the combine.
Wiggins - as the consensus #1, had nothing to gain by going
Parker - who knows if he's put on 15-20 pounds. Whether he has or hasn't, the combine simply isn't where he shines. He's have a slow sprint, a slow lane agility, probably a less than impressive vertical, body fat wouldn't look good. Dude is a lock for top 4, probably near lock for #2. The combine isn't his cup o' tea.
Embiid - he's the one I worry about. If he's healthy, goes to the combine, comes in at a legit 7' or 7'1", long wingspan, jumps and runs well and proves he's in great health, he might have a shot at stealing Wiggin's #1 slot. My gut has always been, and with him missing the combine, I feel even more strongly that dude isn't healthy. I love Embiid's size, athleticism, toughness, demeanor - everything. But I don't what anything to do with an injured big man.
Wiggins - as the consensus #1, had nothing to gain by going
Parker - who knows if he's put on 15-20 pounds. Whether he has or hasn't, the combine simply isn't where he shines. He's have a slow sprint, a slow lane agility, probably a less than impressive vertical, body fat wouldn't look good. Dude is a lock for top 4, probably near lock for #2. The combine isn't his cup o' tea.
Embiid - he's the one I worry about. If he's healthy, goes to the combine, comes in at a legit 7' or 7'1", long wingspan, jumps and runs well and proves he's in great health, he might have a shot at stealing Wiggin's #1 slot. My gut has always been, and with him missing the combine, I feel even more strongly that dude isn't healthy. I love Embiid's size, athleticism, toughness, demeanor - everything. But I don't what anything to do with an injured big man.
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If Smart and/or Gordon drop that low, the Jazz better have a trade in place. Or two.
Game6Conley
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I had Smart and Gordon in the top 8, Smarts measurements I think reveal a bit why he came back, maybe he was hoping he grew an inch. the possibility that Trey and Smart could be a viable backcourt vanished when he measured 6'2" in socks. with a 6'7¼" wingspan and 36" vertical Ennis had a stronger than expected combine, im much more comfortable moving him ahead of Smart.
Gordon's measurements put him squarely in the Harrison Barnes category, but his drop in those rankings is more about the rise of Mcbuckets, Ennis and LaVine. his jump #'s were underwhelming though, 32½" no-step jump is fairly pedestrian, a half an inch more than Dante Exum, whos jump has been highly criticized
by all accounts LaVine killed it at the combine; ontop of measuring almost 6'6" in shoes, with a 6'8¼" wingspan he shot well and was jumping, this high, in drills
