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Catchall said:
Why? What about Leaf's game is compelling for the Jazz compared to the other bigs? Would he be ahead of Lyles in the rotation?
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For starters, he shot 46.6% from three. We desperately need that from a PF. He had a higher rebounding percentage than guys like Bam, Wilson, Lydon, etc. I'm sure you saw how bad of a rebounding team we were when Gobert was on the bench.


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White Chocolate said:
For starters, he shot 46.6% from three. We desperately need that from a PF. He had a higher rebounding percentage than guys like Bam, Wilson, Lydon, etc. I'm sure you saw how bad of a rebounding team we were when Gobert was on the bench.
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Im not trying to to discredit his stats but who didnt shoot impressively from the 3 from ucla, they were the best offense in the nation last season Bryce Alford's kid shot 43% from 3 even though he had 7.5 attempts per game.

I dont know what people see in leaf, he looks like a unathletic stiff who is slow as hell. Mabye im selling him short but he doesnt really impress me as a nba prospect.
 
prodigy said:
Im not trying to to discredit his stats but who didnt shoot impressively from the 3 from ucla, they were the best offense in the nation last season Bryce Alford's kid shot 43% from 3 even though he had 7.5 attempts per game.

I dont know what people see in leaf, he looks like a unathletic stiff who is slow as hell. Mabye im selling him short but he doesnt really impress me as a nba prospect.
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That logic doesn't make sense. Who doesn't shoot impressively on GS?


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White Chocolate said:
For starters, he shot 46.6% from three. We desperately need that from a PF. He had a higher rebounding percentage than guys like Bam, Wilson, Lydon, etc. I'm sure you saw how bad of a rebounding team we were when Gobert was on the bench.

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If his shooting and rebounding translate to the pros, then you're right he's a great player. He could be, but I like the potential/upside of other PFs in our range a bit more. Leaf is a high-IQ player and a good passer. He's willing to get in and scrap in the paint. Again, I see a number of comparisons to David Lee. I just don't know if his defense, rebounding and 3-pt shooting will hold at the next level.
 
Catchall said:
If his shooting and rebounding translate to the pros, then you're right he's a great player. He could be, but I like the potential/upside of other PFs in our range a bit more. Leaf is a high-IQ player and a good passer. He's willing to get in and scrap in the paint. Again, I see a number of comparisons to David Lee. I just don't know if his defense, rebounding and 3-pt shooting will hold at the next level.
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What makes his numbers translate any less than say Wilson or Lydon?


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prodigy said:
Im not trying to to discredit his stats but who didnt shoot impressively from the 3 from ucla, they were the best offense in the nation last season Bryce Alford's kid shot 43% from 3 even though he had 7.5 attempts per game.

I dont know what people see in leaf, he looks like a unathletic stiff who is slow as hell. Mabye im selling him short but he doesnt really impress me as a nba prospect.
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He is more athletic than you are giving him credit for, but he does move kind of clunky

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I don't know if it helps the Leaf discussion or not, but:

Alford shot 6 or 7 points better (3-pointers) this year with Ball; Holiday (who I suspect is Ball's primary backup, though may also have played plenty with Ball) shot almost exactly the same as the previous year; and Hamilton's shooting was down just a tick this year with Ball.

All of these guys' 2-point percentage went way up this past year, however (interestingly, Thomas Welsh's didn't though).
 
I guess my takeaway would be that Leaf's high percentages may be a bit inflated. But good scouts and film study could probably tease out a good guess for how much the inflation is.
 
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