Following Potential 2018 Draftees

[Handlogten's Heros]

Hell no. Dude played like garbage in the combine. 2nd rounder.

I'm not a fan and that is one of the reasons, but the combine is glorified pickup ball... maybe not even glorified pickup ball because everyone is out there to showcase themselves.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Yeah, trust me, he doesn't. I watched him 20+ times this year. He plays hard.

Also think of it this way so you don't have to take my word for it. He's a 3 averaging 20 and 9 in the big ten. If you have motor issues you don't produce like that.

I'm fine trusting you... I think guys can put up numbers and relax on defense a little. Happens frequently and can be corrected... was merely reproducing the garbage I've heard.

 

[Miggs]

Yeah... I don't watch enough to know. If he doesn't the only real issue I have is he moves awkwardly... not an issue as long as it is all healthy and not symptomatic of other issues. Myles Turner had a more extreme version of that and corrected it. He might be slow footed as a 3, but I think he's a 4 who can switch onto wings as needed... so not a big issue.

His combine times suggest he’s not slow footed. His shuttle was a little slow imo but his other two timed runs were above average speed wise.

A couple of years of P3 and professional training and he could refine his athleticism too.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Hell no. Dude played like garbage in the combine. 2nd rounder.

I think Shake will shake out in the 30s or 40s of this draft. Don't really see him in our range. The lack of burst and ability to change speeds is stopping him from being more than a role player right now. It's a bit disappointing, but I don't think he's a priority for us. There are too many other guards and wings who can do more.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I'm not a fan and that is one of the reasons, but the combine is glorified pickup ball... maybe not even glorified pickup ball because everyone is out there to showcase themselves.

Still, a first round prospect should be able to show more than 0 points in 2 games.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

His combine times suggest he’s not slow footed. His shuttle was a little slow imo but his other two timed runs were above average speed wise.

A couple of years of P3 and professional training and he could refine his athleticism too.

Think of KBD's mobility being a bit similar to Luc Mbah a Moute at this stage, or maybe Luol Deng when he started slowing down a bit. However, KBD is a pretty smart and crafty player and can use subtle hesitations and angles to get an advantage on defenders. He can then finish pretty well with some burst at the rim. In other words, if his role is at the 4, I don't think his mobility is an issue. If you want him to chase wings on the perimeter or lead a break, he's probably a bit limited, but he should be okay for a modern 4.

Maybe his athleticism is also a bit comparable to Marvin Williams, but KBD is a craftier and more skilled offensive player, both in mid-range and in the paint.

 

[Miggs]

I’m wondering if KBD could end up playing some 5 tbh.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Think of KBD's mobility being a bit similar to Luc Mbah a Moute at this stage, or maybe Luol Deng when he started slowing down a bit. However, KBD is a pretty smart and crafty player and can use subtle hesitations and angles to get an advantage on defenders. He can then finish pretty well with some burst at the rim. In other words, if his role is at the 4, I don't think his mobility is an issue. If you want him to chase wings on the perimeter or lead a break, he's probably a bit limited, but he should be okay for a modern 4.

Maybe his athleticism is also a bit comparable to Marvin Williams, but KBD is a craftier and more skilled offensive player, both in mid-range and in the paint.

Marvin is a good middle ground comp. I think KBD may have more to his offensive game, but Marvin is really good... not his fault he went #2 in the draft.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I think Shake will shake out in the 30s or 40s of this draft. Don't really see him in our range. The lack of burst and ability to change speeds is stopping him from being more than a role player right now. It's a bit disappointing, but I don't think he's a priority for us. There are too many other guards and wings who can do more.

I hope so... I see him mocked around and to us too frequently.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

I’m wondering if KBD could end up playing some 5 tbh.

He'd probably need at least another 15 - 20 lbs before you start asking him to do that. I'm not sure that's the best way to use him. He's a mobile and skilled face-up player at the 4. Let someone else bang around in the paint.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

I watch Frazier highlights daily. Dude has some insane plays. I worry about his shot and weight, but he is definitely the prospect I would be most excited about drafting at 21. He is older (going to turn 22 at the end of August) but it feels like he has a lot of upside.

I see some Gerald Wallace in him. Just all-out athleticism and motor. Plus his shot isn't broken.

 

[Miggs]

I see some Gerald Wallace in him. Just all-out athleticism and motor. Plus his shot isn't broken.

Boner alert!

Give me a couple of different highlight reels, please.