Following Potential 2025 Draftees

[seattlejazzfan]

Why do you think his % was so low? Did he take a lot of difficult shots?

according to kqwin he took great shots, so he must just not be good at shooting beyond 15 feet.

 

[seattlejazzfan]

I don’t see them as clones

near exact same height and wingspan. both like to get to the rim. both are good playmakers. neither shoots the three ball very well. both struggle finishing at the rim. fears TS% 56.2%. Collier TS% 56.7%. fears assists 4.1. Collier assists 4.3. Fears PPG 17.1. Collier PPG 16.7.

if they aren't clones, they are about as close as you can get. they got collier at 29 and people are talking about fears at 5. that seems crazy to me. like even one wants to argue fears is a better prospect, is it so much better that it's the difference between 5 and 29?

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

basically everything that one would have said about collier coming out of college - with near exact height/length. we got collier at 29

Fears is an immeasurably better shooter

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I think Fears is what people thought Collier would be in a way, but I dont see them as that similar.

One uses bully-ball tactics and one is more of a handles/separation player.

 

[seattlejazzfan]

Fears is an immeasurably better shooter

in college: Collier TS% 56.7. Fears TS% 56.2. Collier 3pt% 33.8. Fears 3pt% 28.4. collier shot better from three. fears shot better FTs. overall TS which takes into account both - the same, Collier slight edge.

immeasurably better.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

in college: Collier TS% 56.7. Fears TS% 56.2. Collier 3pt% 33.8. Fears 3pt% 28.4.

immeasurably better. lol

Eye test means a lot when dealing with small sample sizes.

Collier struggles to shoot the ball with any kind of precision consistency (meaning his misses are inconsistent and all around the rim). Fears just missed shots, but they usually look good. Then you take into account FT% and it's clear as day.

 

[The Midnight]

I would be surprised if Fears isnt a good shooter. His jumper looks pretty clean to me.

Bro, he shoots worse than 30% college 3s… lol..

#NoFears

 

[seattlejazzfan]

Eye test means a lot when dealing with small sample sizes.

Collier struggles to shoot the ball with any kind of precision consistency (meaning his misses are inconsistent and all around the rim). Fears just missed shots, but they usually look good. Then you take into account FT% and it's clear as day.

lol. now Cy's just making **** up. when that starts happening, it's time for the discussion to end.

then you take into account 3pt% and overall TS%. clear as day.

 

[The Midnight]

lol. now Cy's just making **** up. when that starts happening, it's time for the discussion to end.

then you take into account 3pt% and overall TS%. clear as day.

I know he likes to ram a round rod through a square hole, but this is taking it a bit far.

#NoFears

 

[framer]

Fears is an immeasurably better shooter

The actual measurements don't scream "immeasurable." It is possible you may not know what that word means. . .

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

lol. now Cy's just making **** up. when that starts happening, it's time for the discussion to end.

then you take into account 3pt% and overall TS%. clear as day.

What am I making up? Collier shots are incredibly imprecise. That's why he dropped so far in the draft because teams saw that in his workouts.

 

[SoberasHotRod]

Can someone please find and post the catch and shoot vs pull up 3 volumes and percentages for all of the top guards in the draft?