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Johnson reminds men of Stanley Johnson and wasley johnson from syracuse.
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Knowledgeofmine
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I don't have one and Evans might be out of the league after next season.
Yes they are. Sorry you don't remember Pat from his Kentucky days before his body broke down
Miggs
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seattlejazzfan
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i can maybe see wes because he was known somewhat as a shooter coming out. but Keldon Johnson is a shooter - that is his NBA skill at this point - where stanley was just a brute athlete who couldn't shoot.
as a prospect, i don't really know what to think of Keldon. not sure he's a great athlete - at this point i see him as a shooter without much else, and i'm not convinced he can do it from NBA range - though that may be entirely unfair.
I think Keldon Johnson will be an effective 2/3 wing. I don't see him as a star, but a solid 2-way player who can guard 2 - 3 positions. He's got good size with the potential to grow another inch and add to his 6'9" wingspan. He's a good shooter with a high, compact shooting stroke that's consistent when he gets his feet squared up. He finishes well at the rim and has some touch with a floater out to about 8 feet.
I'm trying to think who he compares well to, but I think he'll be better than Kentavious Caldwell-Pope and better than Allen Crabbe. If things go well for him, he might be comparable to Devin Booker, but with better defense. I'd rate him maybe just a notch behind Culver from Texas Tech, but I think Johnson is a slightly more explosive athlete and better defender than Culver. Johnson is more catch-and-shoot, while Culver can create better off the bounce.
seattlejazzfan
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i like just about everything about culver. he's about as complete a player as there is in the draft, but there is something about his shooting stroke that i kinda hate, and as such, i'm not sure i trust him as a shooter at the next level. at the beginning of the season i questioned myself there because as much as i didn't like his mechanics, they were going in - maybe the eye test was simply wrong. now, his 3pt is all the way down to 34% and it is a valid concern imo. doesn't mean he can't become a very good player, just that i would have reservations if i were drafting top 10 which is where everybody seems to have him at this point.
for a guy who's not the greatest run/jump athlete, he needs to be able shoot the three effectively. similar to romeo langford from that standpoint, imo - langford at this point is a flat out atrocious shooter. there is a lot to like about both, but you are rolling the dice that they can figure out the shooting - because neither has great length or explosive athleticism. they have to be able to shoot it.
Bradley Beal was a 34% 3-pt shooter as a freshman at Fla. Also, not an explosive athlete at 6'4". I'd think Culver has similar potential if he works hard. I'd be more concerned about his FT% though.
seattlejazzfan
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The % isn't the issue. the percentage is a symptom of the issue- the issue, if you read my post is his shooting stroke.
Beak wasn't explosive, but he's a stocky and powerful athlete.
Culvers kind of lanky and upright. Physically he resembles Caris Levert, but less athletic.
Culvers kind of lanky and upright. Physically he resembles Caris Levert, but less athletic.
seattlejazzfan
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Starting to think both Kyle Guy and Ty Jerome deserve a shot in the NBA - either late second round or as UFA camp invites. Both are great shooters, Guy has elite ability to get his shot and is fantastic moving without the ball. Jerome a better ballhandler and passer - like a smaller Ingles at 6'5". But they are more than just shooters - they are good basketball players. without question, if they can make a rotation at some point it will be as long range shooters, but they are good enough basketball players that they can get by if they can hit shots. Guy is listed at 6'2", i think he might be closer to 6'4" with decent length.
I don't think you take either one higher than late second, but really, all the Jazz have needed out of Grayson Allen this year is for him to make open shots - both Jerome and Guy can do that and more effectively than Allen and you don't have to waste a first round pick to find out.
I don't think you take either one higher than late second, but really, all the Jazz have needed out of Grayson Allen this year is for him to make open shots - both Jerome and Guy can do that and more effectively than Allen and you don't have to waste a first round pick to find out.