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Food For Thought On Hayward


Interesting comparisons:
Larry Legend:
Both Bird and Hayward are from Indiana
Both Lead small Indiana schools to National Title game
Both got beat by bigger program in National Title game
Both considered "too white" to be great

Deron Williams
Both got drafted after losing in National Title game
Both drafts had bigger players the Jazz wanted (Bogut and Cousins)
Other players were considered better that were drafted later (CP3 and a long list)
 


Interesting comparisons:
Larry Legend:
Both Bird and Hayward are from Indiana
Both Lead small Indiana schools to National Title game
Both got beat by bigger program in National Title game
Both considered "too white" to be great

Deron Williams
Both got drafted after losing in National Title game
Both drafts had bigger players the Jazz wanted (Bogut and Cousins)
Other players were considered better that were drafted later (CP3 and a long list)

So if he is not as good a Larry Legend then do we get to slap you?
 

Mambo

Member
You forgot to mention that Larry Bird Averaged 30PPG 13.3 RPG 4.6 APG while in college



Also....We traded up for Deron Williams, we didnt wait for him to come to us at the 6th pick because he wouldve been gone. We didnt settle for Deron Williams like we did for Hayward.


Both of your statements are irrelevant besides the tournament which is coincidence
 

jimmy eat jazz

Well-Known Member
You forgot to mention that Larry Bird Averaged 30PPG 13.3 RPG 4.6 APG while in college



Also....We traded up for Deron Williams, we didnt wait for him to come to us at the 6th pick because he wouldve been gone. We didnt settle for Deron Williams like we did for Hayward.


Both of your statements are irrelevant besides the tournament which is coincidence

Umm, you are aware, aren't you, that the Jazz tried hard to trade up but could not reach a deal?
 

Mambo

Member
Umm, you are aware, aren't you, that the Jazz tried hard to trade up but could not reach a deal?

I think thats a load of ********, if they were actually trying hard, we would atleast have something done.

Golden State was wanting to give up their 6th pick because Udoh would fall back
Minnesota was trying desperately to get something

In reality what this comes down to is money.
Utah didnt want to spend the money nor take on a contract(Monta Ellis,Elton brand) to try and move up and get a better pick.

They tried their hardest to move up without spending money thats for damn sure, and look what it got us.
 

Wolverine Newby

New Member
I think thats a load of ********, if they were actually trying hard, we would atleast have something done.

Golden State was wanting to give up their 6th pick because Udoh would fall back
Minnesota was trying desperately to get something

In reality what this comes down to is money.
Utah didnt want to spend the money nor take on a contract(Monta Ellis,Elton brand) to try and move up and get a better pick.

They tried their hardest to move up without spending money thats for damn sure, and look what it got us.

Yah a sweet Small Forward that will be awesome vs. a few ok bigs that will be bench warmers
 

NotDeadYet

Well-Known Member
More than likely teams we talked to about moving up wanted Millsap in return. Unless we plan to re-sign Boozer, which I doubt, I don't think $$$ was an issue.
From what I'm reading, this was a better pick than Babbitt. I'd not have been happy if we'd picked Aldrich. At his official height of 6'9", he is too small to play C, and I'm not sure he'll be effective at PF either.
If Hayward looks ready to play at the start of the season, I see him backing up CJ and Kirilenko getting most of his minutes at PF this coming season. Or, Hayward might be able to back up Matthews at SG. I'm sure Sloan will move him around to see where he is most effective. ESPN's Chad Ford likes him:
https://www.deseretnews.com/article/700043101/Calculated-risk-analyst-says.html
 

Hopper

Banned
Ya know, AK was a 23rd pick, er sumthin like that. If this Honzward guy can be anything close to that, except bustin *** and givin 100% 48/82, likes they seem to think, the Jazz could actually be a better team, down the road. The Paperboy aint gunna duplicate Boozer, but he can replace him, and he aint gunna go quittin. AK probably aint gunna be back, so it looks like Deron's team now, fo sho. Deron like guys who go all out. His main job now will be whuppin some BIGTIME Fess ***, to git that boy motivated, I figure.

It aint gunna be the same damn team--mebbe more better, mebbe more worser, but different, either way.
 

Guitaro

Well-Known Member
So if he is not as good a Larry Legend then do we get to slap you?

lol, ok that was funny. Of course, we'll change it to love tap. ;) lol


No, I don't think he'll be as good as Larry, but I do think he has the potential to be nearly as valuable as someone like Hornacek to the Jazz. One player that Hayward said he tried to model his game after was Steve Nash. He said that this was before he hit that growth spurt and therefore made it harder to follow through on that. Butler needed him more in other areas.

In the Jazz system, I could see him providing much more assists--especially to Deron and our slashers. At any rate, I'm glad we keep getting great passers for this team. It's fun to watch.
 
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