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Fraud in Minnesota (and everywhere else)

AlaskanAssassin

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I read today that Tim Walz will no longer be seeking re-election. I haven't been closely following the fraud allegations in MN (aside from headlines). However, you know it must be bad if he's suspending his re-election campaign. This prompted me to do a little research into Minnesota's annual financial and compliance report (available online at Federal Audit Clearinghouse). I've mentioned on this site before that I conduct audits of federal spending through my CPA firm (mostly Native American governments), so this stuff really interests me.

Here's a brief summary of Minnesota's 2024 audit report:

- $20.1 billion of total federally funded spending for the year
- 18 total grants (funding sources) were selected for audit by the auditors (they don't audit everything)
-29 total findings (very high number - and mostly involving Human Services). I've personally never seen an audit report with more than 20 (although I'm sure plenty exist)
-They issued modified opinions on many of the grants (essentially saying these grants are severely breaking the rules and not adhering to federal guidelines)
-Findings reported include massive questioned costs, not verifying if vendors are federally debarred, not reporting back to the federal agency regarding spending and compliance, nearly $10 million of costs reported incorrectly related to child care, not monitoring organizations they pass money to (daycare centers), lack of documentation verifying that people and organizations receiving funds met eligibility requirements, etc.)

This is an absolutely terrible audit report, and anyone who understands how to read these would understand that there is clearly a massive lack of controls around how the state is administering its federal funding.

What is strange to me is that it takes a viral video to get the media and general public to show an interest in this, when it's painfully obvious that this state is not utilizing federal resources well. I wish the media would better report on these types of audit results to inform the public on how its tax dollars are being spent.
 
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I found some fraud not that any trumpers actually care about fraud.

Criminal Hush Money Case: In May 2024, Trump was convicted on 34 felony counts of falsifying business records related to hush money payments made during his 2016 campaign. In January 2025, he was sentenced to an unconditional discharge. He is appealing the conviction.

Trump University: A class-action lawsuit resulted in a $25 million settlement where Trump was found to have defrauded students of his real estate seminar program.

Trump Foundation: A separate lawsuit from the NY Attorney General's office found that Trump misused his charitable foundation for political and business interests, leading to its closure and a $2 million fine paid to charities.
 
I read today that Tim Walz will no longer be seeking re-election. I haven't been closely following the fraud allegations in MN (aside from headlines). However, you know it must be bad if he's suspending his re-election campaign. This prompted me to do a little research into Minnesota's annual financial and compliance report (available online at Federal Audit Clearinghouse). I've mentioned on this site before that I conduct audits of federal spending through my CPA firm (mostly Native American governments), so this stuff really interests me.

Here's a brief summary of Minnesota's 2024 audit report:

- $20.1 billion of total federally funded spending for the year
- 18 total grants (funding sources) were selected for audit by the auditors (they don't audit everything)
-29 total findings (very high number - and mostly involving Human Services). I've personally never seen an audit report with more than 20 (although I'm sure plenty exist)
-They issued modified opinions on many of the grants (essentially saying these grants are severely breaking the rules and not adhering to federal guidelines)
-Findings reported include massive questioned costs, not verifying if vendors are federally debarred, not reporting back to the federal agency regarding spending and compliance, nearly $10 million of costs reported incorrectly related to child care, not monitoring organizations they pass money to (daycare centers), lack of documentation verifying that people and organizations receiving funds met eligibility requirements, etc.)

This is an absolutely terrible audit report, and anyone who understands how to read these would understand that there is clearly a massive lack of controls around how the state is administering its federal funding.

What is strange to me is that it takes a viral video to get the media and general public to show an interest in this, when it's painfully obvious that this state is not utilizing federal resources well. I wish the media would better report on these types of audit results to inform the public on how its tax dollars are being spent.

Yup, that's ****ed up. Goes on in every state though.
 
I read today that Tim Walz will no longer be seeking re-election. I haven't been closely following the fraud allegations in MN (aside from headlines). However, you know it must be bad if he's suspending his re-election campaign. This prompted me to do a little research into Minnesota's annual financial and compliance report (available online at Federal Audit Clearinghouse). I've mentioned on this site before that I conduct audits of federal spending through my CPA firm (mostly Native American governments), so this stuff really interests me.

Here's a brief summary of Minnesota's 2024 audit report:

- $20.1 billion of total federally funded spending for the year
- 18 total grants (funding sources) were selected for audit by the auditors (they don't audit everything)
-29 total findings (very high number - and mostly involving Human Services). I've personally never seen an audit report with more than 20 (although I'm sure plenty exist)
-They issued modified opinions on many of the grants (essentially saying these grants are severely breaking the rules and not adhering to federal guidelines)
-Findings reported include massive questioned costs, not verifying if vendors are federally debarred, not reporting back to the federal agency regarding spending and compliance, nearly $10 million of costs reported incorrectly related to child care, not monitoring organizations they pass money to (daycare centers), lack of documentation verifying that people and organizations receiving funds met eligibility requirements, etc.)

This is an absolutely terrible audit report, and anyone who understands how to read these would understand that there is clearly a massive lack of controls around how the state is administering its federal funding.

What is strange to me is that it takes a viral video to get the media and general public to show an interest in this, when it's painfully obvious that this state is not utilizing federal resources well. I wish the media would better report on these types of audit results to inform the public on how its tax dollars are being spent.


If you look into child care anywhere in the world you will find huge issues. The key problem is heaps of government money is going to fund lots of private providers. Id love an overhaul here, the industry in my state is completely ****ed, culminating in an horrendous case where a paedophile was given access to children at a number of centers, I believe the victims are in the 100s.
 
This didn't come out because of a proven dishonest video that is based on little too no facts pointing a spot light on it. This investigation has been going on for years and many have already been convicted.

Tim Walz was denied resources to push the investigation further. But it was still ongoing and started before he came into office and he's acknowledge it the whole time.

I love this fake care about this "major" fraud. I'm sure the same posters worked up made similar posts crying about trumps proven fraud multiple times. I got pretty sick of all the threads when Trump pardoned someone who got convicted of massive proven fraud.

Facts are so far out the window it's not even funny. It's is entertaining that righties are pretending to care about that though. Just like the "news" they watch pretend to.
 
This didn't come out because of a proven dishonest video that is based on little too no facts pointing a spot light on it. This investigation has been going on for years and many have already been convicted.
Okay, but the video is the primary reason this has gained national attention. I don't recall any national media coverage of this prior to that video.

Isn't it a good thing that the public is being made aware of this, regardless of the source? Isn't fraud always bad? Why can't the goal of stopping fraud related to government spending be a bi-partisan goal?
 
If you look into child care anywhere in the world you will find huge issues. The key problem is heaps of government money is going to fund lots of private providers. Id love an overhaul here, the industry in my state is completely ****ed, culminating in an horrendous case where a paedophile was given access to children at a number of centers, I believe the victims are in the 100s.
The biggest issue I saw on the audit report communicated that Minnesota was not monitoring the activities of the entities it passed money down to (the daycare centers). The monitoring requirements (according to the standards published by OMB) include site visits, obtaining expense reports, desk reviews of their activities, etc. To me, if you aren't monitoring the organizations you are passing money to, the federal government's funding to that state (for that particular grant) needs to stop.
 
Okay, but the video is the primary reason this has gained national attention. I don't recall any national media coverage of this prior to that video.

Isn't it a good thing that the public is being made aware of this, regardless of the source? Isn't fraud always bad? Why can't the goal of stopping fraud related to government spending be a bi-partisan goal?
If fighting fraud was a bipartisan goal then Trump would be in prison and he wouldn't have been able to pardon a bunch of fraudsters and drug kingpins.
If fraud is already being dealt with then it doesn't need national attention.
 
I think billions of dollars of wasted tax dollars certainly deserve national attention, even if politicians are actively trying to convince the American public that it's "being dealt with".
Why? What does my attention do to stop the fraud?
 
This didn't come out because of a proven dishonest video that is based on little too no facts pointing a spot light on it. This investigation has been going on for years and many have already been convicted.

Tim Walz was denied resources to push the investigation further. But it was still ongoing and started before he came into office and he's acknowledge it the whole time.

I love this fake care about this "major" fraud. I'm sure the same posters worked up made similar posts crying about trumps proven fraud multiple times. I got pretty sick of all the threads when Trump pardoned someone who got convicted of massive proven fraud.

Facts are so far out the window it's not even funny. It's is entertaining that righties are pretending to care about that though. Just like the "news" they watch pretend to.
Dude, you really needs some new news sources. 9 billion in fraud. Empty daycare centers receiving millions of dollars and no kids are in the buildings. The facts are quite obvious.
 
Okay, but the video is the primary reason this has gained national attention. I don't recall any national media coverage of this prior to that video.

Isn't it a good thing that the public is being made aware of this, regardless of the source? Isn't fraud always bad? Why can't the goal of stopping fraud related to government spending be a bi-partisan goal?


NYT from a few months ago. In short - yes, a metric crap ton of fraud is happening (particularly in MN, though not just in Minnesota) mostly started under Trumps crappy unregulated Covid policies.
 
Okay, but the video is the primary reason this has gained national attention. I don't recall any national media coverage of this prior to that video.

Isn't it a good thing that the public is being made aware of this, regardless of the source? Isn't fraud always bad? Why can't the goal of stopping fraud related to government spending be a bi-partisan goal?
Stopping fraud is great. Making up false stories to politicize it is not. Spreading false information that hurts peoples lives that are not committing fraud for political gain is not. Distracting from real fraud that's much worse is not great.

But it's really hard to think this post and people up in arms about this are acting in good faith when they are not up in arms about people who committed proven fraud on a truly despicable level are pardoned by Trump and it's crickets. The same goes for those who support Trump period who has even convicted of awful fraud many times.
 
Dude, you really needs some new news sources. 9 billion in fraud. Empty daycare centers receiving millions of dollars and no kids are in the buildings. The facts are quite obvious.
Oh I'm sure you really care about this specific issue. I've seen you harping on fraud a lot on here and I'm sure you did genuine independent research on it and got some actual facts.

I'm sure the good people of Minnesota are in your thoughts and prayers everyday and you actively condemn all people who commit fraud or support those committing fraud.

Can you share some more memes you saw on Twitter that prove this massive fraud? Maybe you should put me on your email list you spam friends and family with, these are really getting undercover real news that those that believe in facts aren't getting.
 
This is some solid right wing porn. A massive scandal that happens to be completely democrats fault and oh let's sprinkle lots of racism in so we can get worked up about immigrants and Somalians. I'm sure everyone is talking about the white lady who was already convicted and at the heart of it right?

This is right out of the far right propaganda machine. Spread lots of false information with scary trigger words and get people worked up. By the time real information gets discussed it's too late everyone already got worked up and thinks it happened.
 
Okay, but the video is the primary reason this has gained national attention. I don't recall any national media coverage of this prior to that video.

Isn't it a good thing that the public is being made aware of this, regardless of the source? Isn't fraud always bad? Why can't the goal of stopping fraud related to government spending be a bi-partisan goal?
It is a bipartisan goal, would the Republicans be interested in holding up their end or is it just Democrats who need to be held accountable in this bipartisan effort?

Get ****ing serious man!
 
I read today that Tim Walz will no longer be seeking re-election. I haven't been closely following the fraud allegations in MN (aside from headlines). However, you know it must be bad if he's suspending his re-election campaign. This prompted me to do a little research into Minnesota's annual financial and compliance report (available online at Federal Audit Clearinghouse). I've mentioned on this site before that I conduct audits of federal spending through my CPA firm (mostly Native American governments), so this stuff really interests me.

Here's a brief summary of Minnesota's 2024 audit report:

- $20.1 billion of total federally funded spending for the year
- 18 total grants (funding sources) were selected for audit by the auditors (they don't audit everything)
-29 total findings (very high number - and mostly involving Human Services). I've personally never seen an audit report with more than 20 (although I'm sure plenty exist)
-They issued modified opinions on many of the grants (essentially saying these grants are severely breaking the rules and not adhering to federal guidelines)
-Findings reported include massive questioned costs, not verifying if vendors are federally debarred, not reporting back to the federal agency regarding spending and compliance, nearly $10 million of costs reported incorrectly related to child care, not monitoring organizations they pass money to (daycare centers), lack of documentation verifying that people and organizations receiving funds met eligibility requirements, etc.)

This is an absolutely terrible audit report, and anyone who understands how to read these would understand that there is clearly a massive lack of controls around how the state is administering its federal funding.

What is strange to me is that it takes a viral video to get the media and general public to show an interest in this, when it's painfully obvious that this state is not utilizing federal resources well. I wish the media would better report on these types of audit results to inform the public on how its tax dollars are being spent.
Agreed. I wish all fraud that is discovered would be equally reported on and the people involved held fully accountable including jail time. If Walz was part of it, he needs to pay the penalty. Just like Trump needs to do jail time for the many counts of fraud he was convicted of. Our justice system is pretty messed up when they let people who were convicted of a crime get away with it just because they were voted into public service. It should not shield Walz and it should not shield Trump. We are in full agreement there.

I wish they could ferret out more of this, because this happens regularly across the country. Fraud like this is likely rampant and needs better controls in place to stop it. Let's start with no shield allowed for the president, then we can move on to third party oversight and auditing of the supreme court and their dealings with billionaires and such, then we can move on to the legislature and stop all forms of lobbying in this country, and have third party oversight and auditing of financial records for all members of congress and the senate, then we can set federal guidelines, based on the above, to better audit and hold governors and state legislatures accountable. Let's do it!
 
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