Fraud in Minnesota (and everywhere else)

[Sardines]

Let us bipartisan address fraud...

 

[Ron Mexico]

I'm genuinely acting in good faith.
I used the term "supposedly" because, first off, Trump was not the focus of this thread and others brought him into the conversation. Second, my inquiry to ChatGPT asking if DTJ has been convicted of fraud answered "Short Answer: No". It mentioned him being convicted of falsifying business records, which has nothing to do with the topic at hand - fraudulent use of federal (taxpayer) funds.

Are you sure you didn't use gronk? Or maybe it's because you searched if DTJ. It's conceivable whoever that is is innocent. Any very basic research will help you find multiple instances of trump committing fraud and being found guilty.

So again it's pretty hard to think you are acting in good faith.

 

[LogGrad98]

Are you sure you didn't use gronk? Or maybe it's because you searched if DTJ. It's conceivable whoever that is is innocent. Any very basic research will help you find multiple instances of trump committing fraud and being found guilty.

So again it's pretty hard to think you are acting in good faith.

LOL, here is a single search using google AI in literally 3 seconds. And it kept going. But I guess since it doesn't explicitly say "fraud" instead of "falsifying business records" the argument will be "see, not convicted of fraud, case closed!":

 

[Red]

Also had a fraudulent university

It was not even accredited as a university. So, just naming it Trump University is itself fraudulent.

AI:

Trump University
fraud involved allegations of deceptive marketing, high-pressure sales, and failure to deliver promised real estate education, leading to lawsuits from former students who claimed they were lured into paying up to $35,000 for worthless seminars taught by unqualified instructors, not hand-picked experts as advertised by Donald Trump, culminating in a $25 million settlement in 2016 without an admission of guilt.
Key Allegations of Fraud:

• "Bait-and-Switch" Tactics: Free introductory workshops led to aggressive sales pitches for expensive seminars, with promises of Trump's personal mentorship and "secrets" to real estate success.
• Misleading Advertising: The program falsely presented itself as a university, despite being unaccredited and not offering degrees or college credit.
• Unqualified Instructors: Students claimed instructors were not hand-picked by Trump, as advertised, and lacked expertise, with some teaching basic, publicly available information (like IRS deductions).
• Failure to Deliver: Students felt they received little value, with seminars described as infomercials and programs offering little useful education.
• High-Pressure Sales: Staff were allegedly trained to exploit personal weaknesses and create urgency to buy expensive packages.

Legal Outcome:

• Multiple lawsuits, including class actions and one from the New York Attorney General, accused Trump University of defrauding thousands.
• Before the presidential election, Donald Trump agreed to a $25 million settlement to resolve all lawsuits, stating he wanted to focus on the presidency, though the Trump Organization maintained no wrongdoing.