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Game Thread: Utah v Sactown. Game in progress.

Catchall said:
Anyone notice Hayward's numbers the last 5 games?

24.4 pts
53% fg
50% 3pt
.792 FT
6.2 rebs.
4.2 ast.
1.2 stl

...and only 2 TOs


He's playing near an All Star level.
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Near?
 
Siro said:
Systems require lengthy and rigorous adjustment period through many MANY practice sessions. It also requires the players to build trust in the coach and buy into what he's doing. I think Corbin was a poor fit for the Jazz, and I was very happy to have gotten rid of him. But blaming Kings' troubles on him in simply ridiculous. Corbin could do nothing with the disaster he inherited.
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Sure, a system does take some time.

Did Corbin ever really have an offensive system in his 3+ years in Utah? I remember the same lame *** excuses when he took over after Jerry. "Just give him time! Let him out in his system!"

The system was never put into place... In fact, the only system I saw was 5 guys playing jungle ball. It was essentially the same offense we saw tonight. Very few back screens, no cutting, etc. compare that with what Snyder has done in just 1 year! He has put into place a far more effective system in just one year than Corbin did in 3+. Corbin also had Better talent. Just look at what Big Al and the Atlanta Jazz are doing!
 
JJAS said:
If he can play like he has been playing lately, then we have ourselves that guy for sure.
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I'd like to see him be more comfortable on the catch and shoot, and adding that little floater like they are teaching Exum would be nice to, just to save his body a little more wear and tear at the rim, but I am nit-picking.
 
The Thriller said:
Those who still want Cousins are dumbasses.

This guy has cancer written all over him. He doesn't have the composure to lead his team anywhere. If you want Derrick Coleman II or Crymelo go ahead

But for me? No thanks. I'm not interested in a box score superstar but completely liabaility on and off the court.
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So I should change my mind because of this game today?

Cousins is a hard character to handle everybody knows that but I have also no doubt in my mind that he is better than Derrick. Right now as well as in the future. If you have the right coach(hint: not Corbin) you take DMC over Derrick anytime. I love Derrick. He came a long way since his rookie year and I'm sure he hasn't reached his peak yet but he ain't Cousins.

And I'm not going to sugarcoat it. I'm extremly dissapointed in how Cousins acted. He is his old self again. He wasn't like that in the beginning of the season. From what I read Cousins and Malone had an amazing relationship. He was the first pro coach that talked some sense into him and changed the culture of that loosing franchise. What does the ownership do? They fire the guy that was a) winning and b)had no problems w/ the star player whatsoever.

But enough about a player that isn't on the Jazz.

And Thriller don't call people names. Didn't your parents teach your nothing?
 
Primetime said:
So I should change my mind because of this game today?

Cousins is a hard character to handle everybody knows that but I have also no doubt in my mind that he is better than Derrick. Right now as well as in the future. If you have the right coach(hint: not Corbin) you take DMC over Derrick anytime. I love Derrick. He came a long way since his rookie year and I'm sure he hasn't reached his peak yet but he ain't Cousins.

And I'm not going to sugarcoat it. I'm extremly dissapointed in how Cousins acted. He is his old self again. He wasn't like that in the beginning of the season. From what I read Cousins and Malone had an amazing relationship. He was the first pro coach that talked some sense into him and changed the culture of that loosing franchise. What does the ownership do? They fire the guy that was a) winning and b)had no problems w/ the star player whatsoever.

But enough about a player that isn't on the Jazz.

And Thriller don't call people names. Didn't your parents teach your nothing?
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Again? He was never not his "old" self. That's the problem. Cousins is his own worst enemy. Great talent with a terrible mental make up. Complains, acts out and as a result lets his team down. Same story over and over.
 
Back home from the game. I immediately take back from voting yes on trading Favors for Cousins. I really didn't think it was bad but after watching him in person from fairly close... that guy's a punk! No room for a cancer like him on the Jazz.

I mean on TV you don't get the whole picture. He whines all the way down the court, it just lingers in his head all the time and it gets ridiculous at one point.
 
I noticed something about Trey in today's game. He looked like he was actively trying to avoid shooting it off the dribble unless pressed by the shot clock. He seemed like he was trying to create for others(not very successfully) before looking for his own shot actually. I wonder if Quin has said something to him(i.e. "no long 2s off the dribble, pls"). He still shot some of those longish twos, but nothing compared to the number opportunities to shoot off the dribble he was provided by the weak pick and roll defense by the Kings...
 
The Thriller said:
Sure, a system does take some time.

Did Corbin ever really have an offensive system in his 3+ years in Utah? I remember the same lame *** excuses when he took over after Jerry. "Just give him time! Let him out in his system!"

The system was never put into place... In fact, the only system I saw was 5 guys playing jungle ball. It was essentially the same offense we saw tonight. Very few back screens, no cutting, etc. compare that with what Snyder has done in just 1 year! He has put into place a far more effective system in just one year than Corbin did in 3+. Corbin also had Better talent. Just look at what Big Al and the Atlanta Jazz are doing!
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