Gamethread: jazz in Cleveland playing "just one game" at 17:00

[Sneakers]

The scary thing is Jefferson coming back soon and Enes being back to 2-16 minutes a game. Can you imagine? It's totally inevitable!

 

[Stoked]

It was a simple yes or no answer. You didn't answer so you dodged it. That can't be argued.

I mentioned a pretty simple concept that you play the guy who is playing best - on Monday that was Favors, tonight it was Kanter. You criticized Jazz fans for ripping Corbin on Monday for not playing Favors, then on Wednesday for not playing Kanter despite the fact that Jazz fans complaints in those situations are completely logical considering they wish the coach would go with the guy who is playing best.

All that said, I think we are in agreement that both guys should be playing more. That Kanter got just 21 minutes with the way he was playing tonight and no Jefferson, is a travesty.

Yes it can. Just becasue I did not answer in the manner you wished me to does not mean I did not answer. The insistance on a Kanter or Favors scenario is faulty. I maintain that the arguement, and there is a legit one there, can be better made.

I agree on the 21 minutes for Kanter. He should have gotten Marvins minutes at the 4. The Four are clearly showing they are capable and can produce. Plus these tight close games are the perfect "fire" for them right now.

 

[The Norm]

The scary thing is Jefferson coming back soon and Enes being back to 2-16 minutes a game. Can you imagine? It's totally inevitable!

At least the season's over and the games don't mean anything to me anymore. Hell I'd almost prefer we just suck for the rest of the season - I'm sure even our FO won't be satisfied with the status quo if we miss the playoffs to the hated Lakers.

The only thing that makes me sad is that it'll be another 7 months before seeing the young guys play significant minutes.

 

[Stoked]

At least the season's over and the games don't mean anything to me anymore. Hell I'd almost prefer we just suck for the rest of the season - I'm sure even our FO won't be satisfied with the status quo if we miss the playoffs to the hated Lakers.

The only thing that makes me sad is that it'll be another 7 months before seeing the young guys play significant minutes.

I am very pleased that Mo came back and Burks still got time. However, as Franklin and I tlaked about in another thread, the real worry is when Mo is up to full speed and Tinsley is back as well.

 

[mhindy]

I would much prefer Jefferson being put out to pasture at this point for the development of Enes and Derrick. I think at this point it's pretty clear Al and Paul are both unneeded next year. I know I've said this a few times but I'd love a guy like Landry for a three year deal.

 

[Stoked]

I would much prefer Jefferson being put out to pasture at this point for the development of Enes and Derrick. I think at this point it's pretty clear Al and Paul are both unneeded next year. I know I've said this a few times but I'd love a guy like Landry for a three year deal.

I'd still try, hard, to sell Paul on a decent contract. If not then a good backup must be found.

 

[DutchJazzer]

I would much prefer Jefferson being put out to pasture at this point for the development of Enes and Derrick. I think at this point it's pretty clear Al and Paul are both unneeded next year. I know I've said this a few times but I'd love a guy like Landry for a three year deal.

why would you put away with sap
if used right paul favors and enes can be used at 30 miutes a game.
reward the hot hand with 36-38.
or would you prefer marvin at 4?

 

[Weezur]

how about foyes chucking?
and his defense that allowed cleevalnd to get hot down the stretch

Foye made like 4 shots in a row in the 3rd quarter. He wasn't efficient (11 points on 11 shots) but meh. 11 shots isn't chucking.
And yeah Foye got burned a lot by Kyrie but Foye did have that block. This can be fixed though, I think Mo would be the one to guard Kyrie if Mo had more minutes. Mo can keep up with guards like that so this can be improved.

This. Watson should not see the floor. Why is Marvin playing the 4? If you are that far downt he 4 then try Evans. But Kudos to Ty for trying something new I guess. I would have given more time to Kanter andCarroll at the expense of Marvin.

Also Foye should not be guarding the best wing player in crunch time. Carroll, Hayward and Burks are better for that. Also once again, I think it should have been Favors and Kanter closing out the game.

I think Corbin wanted to see if Marvin was maybe more effective as a stretch 4. Yeah Marvin had 0 points and didn't really effect the game, but he did have a couple nice drives because he was much faster than the 4 trying to guard him. I'm not sure if Corbin's developed offensive sets for the stretch 4 because the paint should've been much more freer than it was. We may not see this lineup ever again, though so it'll be fixed.
Carrole was kinda sucky today. I wouldn't have given him more minutes. Kinda wished we saw Marvin at the 3 spot on the bench instead of the 4 so that Favors and Kanter could've gotten more time.

 

[DForceAUS]

Landry or even JJ Hickson who can be had for cheap, let Millsap and Al walk.
Both Al and Millsap are redundant now

 

[DutchJazzer]

Kante rplaying 21 minutes is UNACCEPTABLE

 

[mhindy]

why would you put away with sap
if used right paul favors and enes can be used at 30 miutes a game.
reward the hot hand with 36-38.
or would you prefer marvin at 4?

I'm just thinking forward a little and the prospect of having paul at 10-12 mil, favors at 12 and kanter at 12-15 is pretty brutal. Having Landry at like 5-6 a year is preferable IMO.

 

[Stoked]

Foye made like 4 shots in a row in the 3rd quarter. He wasn't efficient (11 points on 11 shots) but meh. 11 shots isn't chucking.
And yeah Foye got burned a lot by Kyrie but Foye did have that block. This can be fixed though, I think Mo would be the one to guard Kyrie if Mo had more minutes. Mo can keep up with guards like that so this can be improved.



I think Corbin wanted to see if Marvin was maybe more effective as a stretch 4. Yeah Marvin had 0 points and didn't really effect the game, but he did have a couple nice drives because he was much faster than the 4 trying to guard him. I'm not sure if Corbin's developed offensive sets for the stretch 4 because the paint should've been much more freer than it was. We may not see this lineup ever again, though so it'll be fixed.
Carrole was kinda sucky today. I wouldn't have given him more minutes. Kinda wished we saw Marvin at the 3 spot on the bench instead of the 4 so that Favors and Kanter could've gotten more time.

Kinda sucky v. terrible (Marvin has been horrendous lately) and I'll take kinda sucky.