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Golden State Whoriors at Utah Jazz: 7pm MT

The Thriller said:
LOL.

Funny how each week we're getting "blasted" by somebody and we're just supposed to "forget about it" and "move on."

Just last week Indy punked us. GS this week. Who is gonna "take it to us" next week? Minny? Ohhh that game @ Denver the back end of a b2b seems promising. Lets all get ahead of ourselves right now and begin to "forget" about the future blowout that Denver is going to give us next week.

When will anyone be held accountable? Just to say, "Move on" and "forget about it" seems too Charlotte Bobcat or Washington Wizards to me. Are we even trying to improve anymore?

A blowout loss each week where we merely discount it as "one game" really adds up come May/June.
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Completely Agree, I remember during the Indy game Harpring was going on about how that game was just one of those "throw away games", Every game in the season is important especially for a middle of the road team like the Jazz, We cant have any "throw Away Games" if we want to make the play offs.
 
Anyone not over reacting is under reacting. How could anyone possibly be comfortable with how things are right now
 
The Norm said:
LOL, there are still Corbin apologists out there?!?!?
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I am not apologizing for Ty, he deserves some of the blame. The players still have to execute and play hard. The coach can scream/encourage/game plan all he wants but if the guys just show up and don't execute or play hard/well what is he going to do. I didn't see the whole game but there were only a few players playing hard and no one really had an outstanding game so I guess Ty is the only one who deserves the blame tonight? How come this doesn't work when the Jazz win? Should Ty get all the credit when they win? Now that would be just silly!!!
 
Marvin Williams shot 1 for 6 for 2 pts. with 1 rebound, 1 assist and 1 block in 19 minutes.

Earl Watson and Jamal Tinsley combined to shoot 0 for 5 with zero points, 7 assists and 7 turnovers.

Randy Foye shot 3 for 10 and ended with 8 pts , 2 rebs, and 1 assist.

I know I come across as an Al Jefferson apologist sometimes, but I really don't think he's the biggest problem here. He and David Lee had virtually identical stat lines.
 
Al Jefferson is one ugly slow moving pile of meat... Who the hel wants to wear his jersey anyway, its horrible business, and basketball. Get rid of him, and Tyco-only thing hes good at is wearing nice suits. Bring back the glory days of Utah
 
cowhide said:
I am not apologizing for Ty, he deserves some of the blame. The players still have to execute and play hard. The coach can scream/encourage/game plan all he wants but if the guys just show up and don't execute or play hard/well what is he going to do. I didn't see the whole game but there were only a few players playing hard and no one really had an outstanding game so I guess Ty is the only one who deserves the blame tonight? How come this doesn't work when the Jazz win? Should Ty get all the credit when they win? Now that would be just silly!!!
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Seriously: Do you really think how bad we are on offense is effort? Poor execution? Or does poor coaching ever enter the equation?
 
cowhide said:
I am not apologizing for Ty, he deserves some of the blame. The players still have to execute and play hard. The coach can scream/encourage/game plan all he wants but if the guys just show up and don't execute or play hard/well what is he going to do. I didn't see the whole game but there were only a few players playing hard and no one really had an outstanding game so I guess Ty is the only one who deserves the blame tonight? How come this doesn't work when the Jazz win? Should Ty get all the credit when they win? Now that would be just silly!!!
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It is Ty's fault that the majority of the minutes are consistently going to the players who AREN'T showing up and who AREN'T busting their asses. Carroll plays harder than anyone on the team (and he's been playing quite well besides) and he just got put in the doghouse.

But let's disregard the laughable rotations for a minute and talk about our half-court offense. It's terrible. It's virtually non-existent. It's directionless. Either Corbin hasn't taught them an offense, or he has, they're not running it, and he's not holding them accountable for it. Either way I don't see how you can't put a HUGE portion of the blame on our idiot head coach.
 
The Norm said:
It is Ty's fault that the majority of the minutes are consistently going to the players who AREN'T showing up and who AREN'T busting their asses. Carroll plays harder than anyone on the team (and he's been playing quite well besides) and he just got put in the doghouse.

But let's disregard the laughable rotations for a minute and talk about our half-court offense. It's terrible. It's virtually non-existent. It's directionless. Either Corbin hasn't taught them an offense, or he has, they're not running it, and he's not holding them accountable for it. Either way I don't see how you can't put a HUGE portion of the blame on our idiot head coach.
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Agree 100%.
 
Catchall said:
Marvin Williams shot 1 for 6 for 2 pts. with 1 rebound, 1 assist and 1 block in 19 minutes.

Earl Watson and Jamal Tinsley combined to shoot 0 for 5 with zero points, 7 assists and 7 turnovers.

Randy Foye shot 3 for 10 and ended with 8 pts , 2 rebs, and 1 assist.

I know I come across as an Al Jefferson apologist sometimes, but I really don't think he's the biggest problem here. He and David Lee had virtually identical stat lines.
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Symptoms of a poor offensive design.

Look, it's not like Marvin has been "lights out" this year. It's not like everyone has been awesome offensively this year and this game was an outlier.

Typically our offense sucks. Unless Mo or Big Al go off, we don't score.

That would be understandable if this were the 04 Jazz team without talent. The truth of the matter is, we have plenty of talent. However, we don't have an offensive system which is putting these talented players, (Kanter, Burks, Hayward, Marv Williams, Millsap, Favors, etc) into good positions.
It turned no names into very serviceable players. Wes Matthews, shandon anderson, Matt Harpring, etc.

I've seen the Jazz system work. It turned good players into great players, Stockton, Malone, Duron...
It turned very average players into very good players (Eisley, Keefe, Bruss, Millsap, Boozer, Memo, etc).

We're not doing that. If anything, the system we are currently running is making our players worse. Look at Marvin, Hayward, Kanter, Burks, etc. You can't tell me that they wouldn't benefit by going to a different system.
 
Did anybody notice that Ty called a timeout when the Jazz were down 10 with 27 seconds left in the game?
I mean what the hell was he thinking?

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