Gordon VS. Vonleh

[Thee Jazz Fan]

Not according to most scouts. Kid is 18 bro and already projects that as worst case.

I personally thinks comps are stupid, as they are almost never accurate. Evaluate in this order3

1. Heart --he has it in spades.
2. Measurements , body, and athleticism -- acrs this category.
3. Age for upside -- is youngest lotto player, and one of the youngest in whole draft
4. Mind --brilliant basketball mind
5. Skills --already checks out with elite skills in most categories. Shooting form looks good, but struggles with FT's, like a lot of young athletic kids his size havem and then turned it around.

You say you don't believe in giving comps, but that's exactly what you are doing with Gordon, and using them to prove your points. All you've done with this post is lose all respect and credibility with me on this topic, and there is no way Gordon compares to Grifin! They don't even play the same position! End thread!!


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[Thee Jazz Fan]

Aaron Gordon isn't a defensive stat hoarder like AK was either. He could easily average more blocks if he played less tight man-defense and took more chances.

Gordon will be a better man defender than AK ever was, no question.

I agree with this.


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[Fishsticks]

You say you don't believe in giving comps, but that's exactly what you are doing with Gordon, and using them to prove your points. All you've done with this post is lose all respect and credibility with me on this topic, and there is no way Gordon compares to Grifin! They don't even play the same position! End thread!!


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Sexual favors is always so lol

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Gordon looks not bad, but terrible on offense.

He airballed 3-ptrs. long by like 3 feet and airballed free-throws. He doesn't have the balance, body control or timing that AK had.

I think the Aaron Gordon talk surrounding the Jazz and Celtics is a smokescreen.

Yet he shot 36% from deep on the year on 1.2 attempts per game. Not a huge amount of attempts, but a decent one. He has potential to get better as a shooter.

 

[Sexual Favors]

First I agree that you can't compare Gordon to KF, but that also can't compare Gordon to Grifin either. They are pf's. Gordon is a stretch4 that can't shoot, at least KF can guard bigger or smaller players, Gordon is too small, but I can see similar production which isn't worth the fith pick.


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Gordon is not a stretch 4. He is a wing who has the body , height, measurements, speed, hops, hips, knees, feet, etc to gaurd positions 1-4. Saying he can't shoot is not accurate. He can't shoot FT's at this stage.

I agree that you the Griffin comparison isn't the most accurate, but it is one that has come from a lot of well respected scouts. It comes from the ridiculous athleticism, dunks, that they both have. A. Gordon, IMO is a better prospect because of his better ball handling, defense, athleticism, etc. both struggled with FT's, but Griffin has since figured it out. Griffin played on a less established college team that featured him more in college.

 

[Sexual Favors]

You say you don't believe in giving comps, but that's exactly what you are doing with Gordon, and using them to prove your points. All you've done with this post is lose all respect and credibility with me on this topic, and there is no way Gordon compares to Grifin! They don't even play the same position! End thread!!


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I don't believe in them, but YOU and others insisted on them. Don't change the rules.

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

I don't believe in them, but YOU and others insisted on them. Don't change the rules.

I've never insisted on them. You don't comprehend well. I just use them to make you look redicus. I must say... I've done a fine job in it.


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[Fishsticks]

And lickily for me, my perspective is shared by a lot of NBA scouts.

You just made a bad comp, don't get salty.

Dude- you make bad comps and super inflate players worth multiple times a day. Like I told you before you can kick and scream at an attempt to make your point more valid than another's, but it won't get you far. He is so much more KF than you give him credit for. .....waiting for kicking and screaming to commence.

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

I don't believe in them, but YOU and others insisted on them. Don't change the rules.

Oh, and your the one that has dictated the rules and path of this topic bringing up the comps, all I've done is refute them and taken you to school.


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[Thee Jazz Fan]

With the comps you brought up.


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[Sexual Favors]

Oh, and your the one that has dictated the rules and path of this topic bringing up the comps, all I've done is refute them and taken you to school.


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Actually, no.

Catchell called him Corey Brewer
Vermin called him K. Faried
PG_AB called him MKG
Jazz4Ever called him Chris Singleton

Those comps came from others, this starting the discussion on comps.

And, no, you haven't made me look stupid. You haven't posted any facts, links, or data. You've just hopped on the bandwagon of others and tried changing the flow of he debate to suit your needs. If you don't think so, maybe you should read back a couple of pages.

 

[Fishsticks]

Is he the next Shawn kemp? I want to keep the comparisons coming. What's his PPG ceiling? Reb? Like I said I like Gordon, I'm just not convinced he is the 5th pick in this draft....at all. If we trade back and acquired more assets I could be convinced depending on who passed over.