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Greg Popovich says "suck it" to the NBA.

Gyp Rosetti said:
Jesus, you're short-sighted. Let me tell you something. If Pops kept his starters out there for 35 minutes a night for their careers like many teams do, these guys may have already retired, and the Spurs as a whole would be much, much ****tier, thus making their value and worth to the NBA much, much less.

But besides that point, any fans who expect anything are douches. It's not their team. They don't look out for the best interests of the players and therefore of the team like Pops does. But maybe he should just listen to Salty, play them 35 minutes a night for the fans, let them get injured in the process, and be one and done in the playoffs, thus ****ing the fans infinitely more pissed off. Or should they just play through injuries too for the fans? Ya know, because they paid some money.

Get over it. We're entitled to nothing. **** happens. Injuries. Births. Deaths in the family. Guys miss games and this is an anomaly, not a trend.
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Its real sad when millionaires see healthy young men as lowly sport for their spectator feast. Has this country really degraded to Rome status this fast? Who cares about the health of citizens as long as the front row gets their entertainment...
 
franklin said:
Its real sad when millionaires see healthy young men as lowly sport for their spectator feast. Has this country really degraded to Rome status this fast? Who cares about the health of citizens as long as the front row gets their entertainment...
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In all seriousness, I am curious.. have you ever made yourself a student of the Roman Empire? I only ask because I did and I named my company (one that I sold in '05) after that era. I collected Roman Empire era artifacts that were awesome. I became fascinated with that time period.

(That was probably weird, so ..)
 
I love Pop. Dude is an awesome coach. I love that he has the stones to do thing his way, instead of being worried about what people think. I would love to have him as our coach.
 
Gyp Rosetti said:
Jesus, you're short-sighted. Let me tell you something. If Pops kept his starters out there for 35 minutes a night for their careers like many teams do, these guys may have already retired, and the Spurs as a whole would be much, much ****tier, thus making their value and worth to the NBA much, much less.

But besides that point, any fans who expect anything are douches. It's not their team. They don't look out for the best interests of the players and therefore of the team like Pops does. But maybe he should just listen to Salty, play them 35 minutes a night for the fans, let them get injured in the process, and be one and done in the playoffs, thus ****ing the fans infinitely more pissed off. Or should they just play through injuries too for the fans? Ya know, because they paid some money.

Get over it. We're entitled to nothing. **** happens. Injuries. Births. Deaths in the family. Guys miss games and this is an anomaly, not a trend.
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Maybe he should just sit them all season and only put them out on the floor for the playoffs. Maybe every team should start doing this. Careers would be lengthened, and injuries to star players would be reduced.

Or, maybe the Spurs could just do what everyone else does and give 100% every game. When players get old or get hurt you find replacements. This is part of the game.

Hopefully Stern teaches them that integrity is required. If they're too old to go a full season then maybe it's time to call it a career.

If the Spurs players were already retired from playing too many minutes, some other players/team would have already taken their place. It's the league's version of natural selection.
 
I absolutely agree with Pop's decision. He has an older team, and he shouldn't risk killing them for one game. Also, where was Stern's high and mightiness during Golden State's tankapalooza last year? At least the Spurs are being honest about not playing their stars.
 
For the people that are upset with this decision,

I am curious. Are you as equally upset when NFL teams rest their starters after clinching the playoffs? I consider this an equal analogy because there are so many playoff spots in the NBA and the Spurs are clearly on pace to get to the playoffs.
 
WhiskyPriest said:
I absolutely agree with Pop's decision. He has an older team, and he shouldn't risk killing them for one game. Also, where was Stern's high and mightiness during Golden State's tankapalooza last year? At least the Spurs are being honest about not playing their stars.
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WhiskyPriest said:
For the people that are upset with this decision,

I am curious. Are you as equally upset when NFL teams rest their starters after clinching the playoffs? I consider this an equal analogy because there are so many playoff spots in the NBA and the Spurs are clearly on pace to get to the playoffs.
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What Golden State did last season absolutely warranted punishment. It not only warranted severe punishment, but it should have lead to rules changes in how the lottery works. Maybe make lottery position outside of the top 3 less of a guarantee. Like the way it used to be.

I also think it cheats the fans when NFL teams tank games. It's more understandable for an NFL team though, because there are so many more injuries in an NFL game.

To be clear, NBA teams also rest stars after a playoff spot is clinched. This was not one of those situations. The Spurs just decided to tank a game. Their playoff seeding is absolutely not clinched at this early point in the season.

If the playoffs started next week and the Spurs were locked into their playoff seed, I'd have much less of a problem with this. But as it stands right now, the Spurs just tanked a meaningful regular season game.

The integrity of the game shouldn't only be important in the playoffs.

If Pete Rose got banned from baseball for life for betting on his own team, it shouldn't be okay for the Spurs to be openly tanking meaningful regular season games.

I realize they (and other teams) have done this before, but that doesn't make it right. It should have been punished all those other times too.

Remember when the league told Malone he'd be punished if he skipped the all star game? Now it's okay for teams to openly tank pretty big regular season games?
 
SaltyDawg said:
I'm not a fan of any of those teams and didn't buy a ticket. And you probably shouldn't care even if I did.

The NBA, however, should absolutely care if fans are spending ridiculous amounts of money and then only receiving a partial product.
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Should the NBA do more (i.e something more than the Darft Lottery) to stop teams tanking, then - since tanking is also deliberately putting out a sub-standard product? Especially when some teams start tanking on Opening Night (see: last season's Bobcats)? Shouldn't they do more to protect season-ticket holders from being served 41 games of garbage?

In this case, all Heat fans paid a premium to see a "top-tier" team and didn't get what they paid for, so I agree with you that the fans got stiffed, but the fact there are "top-tier" and "lower-tier" teams in the first place is the bigger issue. Of course, if there was a CBA in place that allowed teams to build and/or retain competitive rosters regardless of which home market they played in, and which reduced the gap between the "have multiple All-Star" and "have no All-Stars" teams, there might not be this issue, but Stern has already whiffed on fixing that. Instead we have the same disparity between franchises that we had before the lockout.
 
Pops is just exploiting gaps of the playoff system, his team is good and old enough to make a desicion like that. And that's why he is getting paid right, to make desicions on behalf and favor of his team.
 
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