GT: Jazz v Pacers, Sat. 12/5/15 @7:00pm

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I enjoyed that as well. Not sure what it has to do with my post you quoted though

Because while PG may have had a better shooting game, Hayward is the one who made more winning plays in OT where George threw away the game on both ends. He had a huge turnover in OT, tripped over his own teammate's foot that resulted in a Hayward dunk, fouled Hayward with 3 seconds on the clock while he was behind the halfcourt line, and looked generally frustrated by Hayward's physicality. Im not sure George even scored on Hayward other than getting fouled on that three in the first quarter.

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[Thee Jazz Fan]

It was a really bad day all around for the refs both teams had plenty to gripe about.

Thought it was amusing to me to see the refs have to replay the PG flop over and over only to see no contact was made. I'd have been very embarrassed to have been a ref looking at that replay. PG better find his pockets a little lighter by the end of the weekend.

 

[fishonjazz]

Because while PG may have had a better shooting game, Hayward is the one who made more winning plays in OT where George threw away the game on both ends. He had a huge turnover in OT, tripped over his own teammate's foot that resulted in a Hayward dunk, fouled Hayward with 3 seconds on the clock while he was behind the halfcourt line, and looked generally frustrated by Hayward's physicality. Im not sure George even scored on Hayward other than getting fouled on that three in the first quarter.

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My post was in reference to who is better out of george and hayward not any specifics about last nights game.... The one where george dropped 48 points......

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

My post was in reference to who is better out of george and hayward not any specifics about last nights game.... The one where george dropped 48 points......

And Hayward won both games this year.

Hayward > George.

George holds a L because Hayward handled him in OT.

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[Thee Jazz Fan]

Because while PG may have had a better shooting game, Hayward is the one who made more winning plays in OT where George threw away the game on both ends. He had a huge turnover in OT, tripped over his own teammate's foot that resulted in a Hayward dunk, fouled Hayward with 3 seconds on the clock while he was behind the halfcourt line, and looked generally frustrated by Hayward's physicality. Im not sure George even scored on Hayward other than getting fouled on that three in the first quarter.

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Watching live my jaw dropped when PG committed one of the worst fouls I've ever seen on tv. Hayward was a good ten feet behind backcourt. He may be the reason for overtime, but he's also the reason they lost.

Wasn't that what lead to a Trey Burke jumper that put Utah up one?

 

[Goodluckchuck]

He actually was fouled but before he went for the dunk. It was either a really late call or a makeup.

He got free throws for it? If he was fouled on the rebound it would have been side out. They called a foul on the dunk.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Watching live my jaw dropped when PG committed one of the worst fouls I've ever seen on tv. Hayward was a good ten feet behind backcourt. He may be the reason for overtime, but he's also the reason they lost.

Wasn't that what lead to a Trey Burke jumper that put Utah up one?

Yes. It was one of many really bad plays George made late in the game

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[Thee Jazz Fan]

He got free throws for it? If he was fouled on the rebound it would have been side out. They called a foul on the dunk.

Like I said, it could've been a markup call.

Also I don't recall but it's possible the Jazz were in the penalty situation.


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[MDAV28]

Statements like this are so bunk man. Both players have entire careers ahead of them. Both have had good starts, in different environments. Hayward actually looked better defensively tonight, and he's easily the better passer. George is the better scorer, as of this point.

Let them both play out their careers and we can compare later. If Favors can overtake offensive option #1 status on this team in his 6th season (something no one saw coming) then it should teach us that the jury is still out on these young kids.

I didn't say anything about the future but George had an incredible night and is having an incredible season. He would be the story of the season if it weren't for that one guy in Oakland. It's fair to compare them at this point in their careers, George is the better player.

 

[MDAV28]

Sure Hayward has the sweep (yay) but George's Pacers are one of the best teams, not only the East, but in the league to start this season.

Are we a better team if we put George on this squad instead of Hayward? Is Indiana better?

 

[ijazz]

Sure Hayward has the sweep (yay) but George's Pacers are one of the best teams, not only the East, but in the league to start this season.

Are we a better team if we put George on this squad instead of Hayward? Is Indiana better?

Both players are different stars.

Hayward fits Utah. He is ver unselfish. What other Max player do you know who does not complain not getting all touches down the stretch. Hayward wants to win If someone else is hot, he goes with it. Hayward's mere presence makes the other guys play better. Locke said we are +10 better offensively with Hay on floor.

PG is great for Indy. More typical start who takes over(good or bad) and so goes the game. Nothing wrong with it. Just different.

I think both teams picked the right guy and I wish them both well.

I noticed Hayward actually hugged PG after last rites game. He almost never does that with any player as he is usually 1st one off the court so I have a feeling they are buds.

 

[MDAV28]

Both players are different stars.

Hayward fits Utah. He is ver unselfish. What other Max player do you know who does not complain not getting all touches down the stretch. Hayward wants to win If someone else is hot, he goes with it. Hayward's mere presence makes the other guys play better. Locke said we are +10 better offensively with Hay on floor.

PG is great for Indy. More typical start who takes over(good or bad) and so goes the game. Nothing wrong with it. Just different.

I think both teams picked the right guy and I wish them both well.

I noticed Hayward actually hugged PG after last rites game. He almost never does that with any player as he is usually 1st one off the court so I have a feeling they are buds.

I agree they fit. Are we a better team with George? If you're saying no you are delusional.