Hantlers explains why things are the way they are on reservations

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Nope not super human at all. Just don't buy into all your hogwash.

You should buy into it because of me. My hope is that you will do the research yourself, even if the only reason is to dispute something in an educated fashion. In this case, you are claiming your brain works differently than almost any human brain studied. Don't you at least want to learn how typical human brains work?

Why go take a test about how racist one is or isn't?

You don't believe in learning about yourself?

I'd rather just go on being nice and fair to those I meet. I know that must be hard for you.

It is hard for me, but after I put in the effort to learn about my prejudices and racism, it became easier, and I was able to focus my efforts better. I understand you are comfortable in your delusion that you are "nice and fair" to everyone, perhaps so much that you don't want to know if this is not true.

 

[VINYLONE]

Posting in thread.

 

[LogGrad98]

I'm sorry that you think you are super-human. That must suck.

As a suggestion, take a visit over to Project Implicit, where they do tests to see how prone you are to these initial reactions. You won't show any biases, right?

I thought it sounded interesting so I just started this assessment and I already see an issue. If I were doing this in the real world I would develop an algorithm to assess the scores and put all of the scores into the spreadsheet to get my dividing point. I am supposed to consider all areas equally so there would be no need for weighting, simple math. But now I have to consider each person individually without even seeing what the averages are or being prepared to evaluate based on the objective criteria. Seems like they are purposely skewing the results. They may as well just put up the pictures with zero criteria and ask you to pick which ones you prefer to look at. I can easily skew this however I want depending on the pictures I choose to pick. Just pick all the ethnic people and I will show no biases. With no way to accurately assess the criteria against other applicants it is all guess work. Maybe that is the point, so show that you like to look at people of your own race? Kind of silly really.

 

[LogGrad98]

I guess I have a hard time picking white and black people out of a crowd from their eyes. My results were inconclusive.

 

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I thought it sounded interesting so I just started this assessment and I already see an issue. ... Kind of silly really.

Doesn't sound like the tests I took a few years ago. Those were based on reaction times. If you had taken time to choose, it would have invalidated your score. Perhaps I have confused two different websites.

 

[franklin]

Again, why would they choose a life of poverty if they thought they could have more? You keep repeating "why bother try for more", but you don't answer "why settle for poverty"? They don't like having new cars/trucks, larger houses, better food?

Wasn't keeping their old world culture the reason for reservations in the first place?

 

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Wasn't keeping their old world culture the reason for reservations in the first place?

Are you suggesting that in the various native American cultures before the Europeans arrived, the cultures did not view having larger houses and better food as desirable? I'll grant there were no cars and trucks. I'm not an expert, but that does not fit into what very little I know of Native American culture, and fits into the Noble Savage stereotype a little too neatly.

 

[moevillini]

Are you suggesting that in the various native American cultures before the Europeans arrived, the cultures did not view having larger houses and better food as desirable? I'll grant there were no cars and trucks. I'm not an expert, but that does not fit into what very little I know of Native American culture, and fits into the Noble Savage stereotype a little too neatly.

no clue what's all been going on here, just want to add native (indigenous) American cultures tended to be very communal and had little interest in private ownership

 

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no clue what's all been going on here, just want to add native (indigenous) American cultures tended to be very communal and had little interest in private ownership

Practices like the potlatch tell me otherwise, in addition to the general mistakes of treating hundreds of tribes as a single cultural group.

 

[franklin]

Are you suggesting that in the various native American cultures before the Europeans arrived, the cultures did not view having larger houses and better food as desirable? I'll grant there were no cars and trucks. I'm not an expert, but that does not fit into what very little I know of Native American culture, and fits into the Noble Savage stereotype a little too neatly.

I was asking a question.

Practices like the potlatch tell me otherwise, in addition to the general mistakes of treating hundreds of tribes as a single cultural group.

You're the one stereotyping every culture as having the same inherent desires. Why do you believe that Native Americans would not have differing motivations than the Western culture which you're trying to typecast everyone as?

 

[Hantlers]

The notion that they, as a group, would be happy in poverty is contrary to their basic human nature.

Basic human nature tells me that as a man, I wouldn't want my significant other (soon to be wife) to be sleeping with another man. Yet somehow this idea made sense to you. For all I know, it made you happy that your wife was sleeping with another man.

That's why your basic human nature argument is stupid. People aren't always going to follow 'basic human nature'.

 

[VINYLONE]

Basic human nature tells me that as a man, I wouldn't want my significant other (soon to be wife) to be sleeping with another man. Yet somehow this idea made sense to you. For all I know, it made you happy that your wife was sleeping with another man.

That's why your basic human nature argument is stupid. People aren't always going to follow 'basic human nature'.

You should look into cuckolding. Some men don't have a problem with their significant others sleeping with another man. It's actually a turn on.