Also, if they put much protection on their pick, even if they do trade it, it won't help us as much this year.
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Also, if they put much protection on their pick, even if they do trade it, it won't help us as much this year.
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DL values him, but just not at the price - whatever that was - that Gordon and his agent asked for. Jazz did put a contract offer on the table. Hayward wanted more.
Seriously, though, the "league source" could be the Celtic's hot dog vendor. When any team is losing, it's automatically assumed they have to "rebuild" and may accept draft picks for their better players. Jazz don't have to deal and I'd be surprised if this trade goes down. In any case, I'm sure DL would be smart enough to only accept a pick with ZERO restrictions. If Ainge wants top-3 protection, you walk away from the table. And for that reason, I think Boston does the same. They can always revisit a trade after the draft, exchanging the rights to their pick for Hayward.
Not happening.
Jerry Sloan was a big proponent for drafting Hayward. Obviously Paul George was on our radar too.
Jazz have no reason to trade Hayward unless the offer is clearly attractive.
While we're at it, I bet Burks is drawing some serious interest from teams.
And, as has been pointed out earlier, if the Celtics want him, they better try to get him before summer. Not likely they could sign him in FA.
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I agree
The Jazz made a statement (via Chad Ford) to say they expect to keep Hayward long-term, which is basically code for "Your offer has to be really solid, or we're not going to move him." Of course, there's no need to make such a statement unless he's coming up in trade discussion that the Jazz are willing to entertain.
https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/232013/Jazz-Unlikely-To-Deal-Gordon-Hayward
https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/232013/Jazz-Unlikely-To-Deal-Gordon-Hayward
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Yep. I'll bet he signs for the QO so he can then be an UFA the following season.
Once the trade deadline passes this week and Hayward enters restricted free agency, the only other option for Boston would be a sign-and-trade. Basically, the Jazz would have to do Boston a favor.
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Love the response by some. Yep, we should let Hayward go for Avery Bradley. Otherwise we're just asking for too much. You know why Boston is in this terrible situation? Because they were afraid to let a couple of their players walk away for nothing and are now stuck with the horrible Gerald Wallace contract.
Now they have no room to manuever next season without giving up good assets. They're stuck.
Now they have no room to manuever next season without giving up good assets. They're stuck.
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Brad Stevens needs to get comfortable with the Mack/Howard portion of his Butler to the NBA dream.
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I agree. This accomplishes two things. 1) What you said, and 2) Scares away potential suitors from making an offer on Hayward in the offseason which in effect reduces his value...Jazz can get him cheap.
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Although one way it could be possible is if:
A. Boston is not confident in thier tank.... they think they will end up around 7th due to the strength of other teams tanks and rondo being back.
B. They think gordon is going to improve ALOT and end up similar to paul george. (I hear thier coach loves hayward right?)
If those 2 things are true then they might look at it like trading vonleh or gordon (7th pick) for paul george (hayward)
That would look like a good trade from thier perspective
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And this is precisely why I get so frustrated with those who just wanted KOC and now want DL to just do a deal. Let's not back ourselves into a corner like the Knicks, Celtics, etc. who have bad contracts on their books. Taking on 1-yr for unneeded cap space? Smart. Taking on multiple years....unless the return is overwhelming? Dumb.
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I'm the biggest Hayward partisan here--but the Celts #1, you'd have to do that. For nothing else though: I don't want Rondo, I don't want no ****-butt jeff green, i want an unprotected #1. I doubt the Celts would do it, but if they like Hayward that much... worth a shot.
Boston are currently 6th worst and who knows some teams might even out tank them.
If they slip down to 8th or worse, I think that's a fair deal on both sides for a straight swap with Hayward. (you're looking at Aaron Gordon, Garry Harris, etc)