Hayward has 34.5 inch vertical!

[Kyoto]

You didn't seem to mind it.

3" seems to be giant sized, compared to most on this board.

 

[The Ghost of Blue Edwards]

Babbitt has a 37" vertical and a 6' 11.25" wingspan.


Haywards's wingspan is also an awful 6' 7.75". By comparison, Aminu has a similar vert, but an 8 inches higher wingspan.

Paul George's winspan- 6' 11'.25". Not sure about his vert but I'm pretty confident in assuming it's higher than Hayward's.

Udoh has a 33.5" vertical and a 7' 4.5'' wingspan

The SG we passed up that we shouldn't have, Xavier Henry, has a wingspan 4 inches greater than Haywards' and a vertical 2 inches greater.

Ed Davis, whom we passed on, has a wingspan 5 inches greater than Hayward and a vertical 2 inches greater.

This thread= Fail. OP should've checked Haywards comparable peer's wingspans and verticals before posting a thread proving how awful Hayward stacks up against other NBA caliber players.

 

[The Ghost of Blue Edwards]

Also, here's a list of players who scored better than Hayward on the lane agility test:

Babbitt
Udoh
Bradley
Henry
Aminu
Davis
Aldrich!!!
James
Turner
Johnson
Cousins (That's right, a 270 pound center with a questionable work ethic moves better through the lane than Gordon Hayward)
Patterson


The only guys Hawyard beat out on the agility test were Larry Sanders from VCU and James Anderson from OSU. George's stats are N/A. Was he injured or something?

 

[David Stern]

Who cares what his vertical is? He's white.

 

[honz]

I wonder how Paul Pierce tested out at the combine...

 

[jimmy eat jazz]

Um, Dunleavy, Jr's was 29.0. That's a 5.5 inch difference. Terrible comparison unless we're just comparing two players based on skin color alone.

Corrected to be more accurate.

 

[Mambo]

Um, Dunleavy, Jr's was 29.0. That's a 5.5 inch difference. Terrible comparison unless we're just comparing two players based on height and skin color alone.

Wasnt comparing....I just like the name Mike Dunleavy Jr.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Also, here's a list of players who scored better than Hayward on the lane agility test:

Babbitt
Udoh
Bradley
Henry
Aminu
Davis
Aldrich!!!
James
Turner
Johnson
Cousins (That's right, a 270 pound center with a questionable work ethic moves better through the lane than Gordon Hayward)
Patterson


The only guys Hawyard beat out on the agility test were Larry Sanders from VCU and James Anderson from OSU. George's stats are N/A. Was he injured or something?

That should just tell you how great of an athlete Cousins is that he can be so overweight and still put up strong athletic number for a center.

 

[seattlejazzfan]

34.5 is extremely average for a wing. Such high flyers as Matt Carroll and Marty Leunen and Coby Karl have similar verts. If Hayward becomes a player it won't be due to any advantage he gains due to his athletic ability.

 

[Deleted member 365]

That should just tell you how great of an athlete Cousins is that he can be so overweight and still put up strong athletic number for a center.

It truly amazes me to the extent the handfull of Hayward Homers are going to either promote this kid or ignore his deficiencies. Truly, I'm impressed.

As stated before, Hayward's lane agility test was worse than virtually any guard at his position. And was worse than several big men:

Cousins, Aldrich (you know, that center from Kansas that many compared to Greg Ostertag), Brackins (6 foot 10 bigman), Ryan Richards (7 footer from England compared to Jarron Collins), and Patterson.

In fact, Hayward's agility test score was nearly the same as Hassan Whiteside.

His wingspan and handsize isn't very good either. Worse than both Babbit's and Henry's.

Truly, are you really going to ignore all of this?

If so, then all hope for intelligent discussion has been lost. You can have an opinion, that's fine, but at least have some kind of evidence to support it. Don't expect evidence to support your already formed opinion. And certainly don't create threads trying to convince others of Hayward's athletic ability when quite honestly, it's a huge liability.

Hayward has got to beat the odds. Critics have legit concerns which are based on evidence. Which is far more than what some of you Hayward Homers have presented thus far.

 

[seattlejazzfan]

His Max Vertical jump is 34.5 inches! But 34.5 is top 10-12 best in the Draft.

Or...top 30.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

It truly amazes me to the extent the handfull of Hayward Homers are going to either promote this kid or ignore his deficiencies. Truly, I'm impressed.

As stated before, Hayward's lane agility test was worse than virtually any guard at his position. And was worse than several big men:

Cousins, Aldrich (you know, that center from Kansas that many compared to Greg Ostertag), Brackins (6 foot 10 bigman), Ryan Richards (7 footer from England compared to Jarron Collins), and Patterson.

In fact, Hayward's agility test score was nearly the same as Hassan Whiteside.

His wingspan and handsize isn't very good either. Worse than both Babbit's and Henry's.

Truly, are you really going to ignore all of this?

If so, then all hope for intelligent discussion has been lost. You can have an opinion, that's fine, but at least have some kind of evidence to support it. Don't expect evidence to support your already formed opinion. And certainly don't create threads trying to convince others of Hayward's athletic ability when quite honestly, it's a huge liability.

Hayward has got to beat the odds. Critics have legit concerns which are based on evidence. Which is far more than what some of you Hayward Homers have presented thus far.

I'll let you know when I see him play, measurements are just measurements. There are players who have killed the combine, and gotten killed in the NBA, and vice versa.