Hayward has agreed to an offer with Hornets

[fishonjazz]

Chandler Parsons signs an offer sheet for 3-years $46 mil which averages out to $15.3 mil a year.

Gordon Hayward signs an offer sheet for 4-years $63 mil which averages out to $15.7 mil a year.

Hayward > Parsons. **** it. Match the offer.

so because one team does something dumb we should too?

I just punched myself in the balls. You should punch your balls also

 

[fishonjazz]

In reality, people shouldn't be mad at Hayward. He's doing what any young player should, and would do. He's takin as much money as he can get. That's ok.

If you're gonna be mad, be mad at Lindsey, because we're paying a heck of a lot more than we would have at the beginning of the season.

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Fwiw i think there are only 2 or 3 posters that are mad at hayward so you might as well direct these types of comments to those posters

 

[Hantlers]

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Fwiw i think there are only 2 or 3 posters that are mad at hayward so you might as well direct these types of comments to those posters

Well one of them called him a scumbag for taking more money, another called him a bitch.

I hope neither has ever taken a better paying job in their life.

 

[JAZZGASM]

Not really. You are forgetting cap holds going forward. I think we have about $12.5M left this year and will be right up against the cap next season.

If we pay Hayward $16, max Kanter (probably won't happen) and give Burks $10M a year, we will be right around $63M including Exum and Hood. The cap is supposed to raise significantly after the new tv deal is finalized.

I was saying we have the capability to max Kanter if we want to. Depending on the cap increase, we may have the capability to nearly max Burks too. (Not that we want 3 max contracts)

 

[Diamond77]

He is a mercenary as most Nba players!

 

[Doublea]

It looks like we wouldn't be able to sign a different player for less in this market right now...

 

[Doublea]

If we pay Hayward $16, max Kanter (probably won't happen) and give Burks $10M a year, we will be right around $63M including Exum and Hood. The cap is supposed to raise significantly after the new tv deal is finalized.

I was saying we have the capability to max Kanter if we want to. Depending on the cap increase, we may have the capability to nearly max Burks too. (Not that we want 3 max contracts)

That freaks the **** out of me. No team would want that to happen. Even though we have the space it's terrible.

 

[mellow]

So the Jazz have 72 hours to respond after receiving the offer. Hayward is supposed to sign it tonight at midnight.

I heard a story a few years ago about a team who attempted to delay the response on a RFA by avoiding the message. I believe it was the Knicks or Rockets...please help me out.

The boss shut down the office, sent everyone home, unplugged the fax machine and then hopped on a plane to another state. It took them several days to hunt him down and ambush him, like being served a supeona.

I was reminded of this when reading tweets about Parsons.

Rob Mahoney @RobMahoney about 30 minutes ago
Now imagining Daryl Morey in full HOME ALONE mode, setting up all kinds of traps and pranks to help him elude Dallas couriers.

Too bad the Jazz have that open scrimmage tomorrow night. Can the jazz have an open scrimmage without any members of ownership or managment in attendance?

Where could they hide to avoid the courier?

 

[Coach Ellis]

Why delay it? Just go about your business and match at the last reasonable moment so that Charlotte has to chase after Richard Jefferson once all the good free agents are already gone.

 

[phippsj]

Jazz will match, and just burned themselves. From the SLTrib: "After extension talks broke down last fall, agent Mark Bartelstein said Hayward had not been seeking a max deal from the Jazz."

Jazz wanted $12M, Hayward wanted $13M. Now he is getting the max. All those upset Jazzfanz need to stop blaming Hayward and start calling out the Jazz for shooting themselves in the foot. A lot of people keep saying they are Jazz fans, so they care about the Jazz. Well, Hayward is the one person who needs to care about himself and we can't fault him for earning as much as he can in his career. Jazz took a risk and lost. Vent your anger there.

Judging by other signings, I don't think you are going to find anyone of his caliber that are any cheaper.

 

[ijazz]

In reality, people shouldn't be mad at Hayward. He's doing what any young player should, and would do. He's takin as much money as he can get. That's ok.

If you're gonna be mad, be mad at Lindsey, because we're paying a heck of a lot more than we would have at the beginning of the season.

DL is the one who messed up. He should've known what the market would be like Haywards agent did.

Easy math as Locke pointed out.


So now Hayward has an opt-out for year 4 as well as a 15% trade penalty.

2 elements avoided if signed in October.

The year 3 thing is big for me.

We likely will not make the playoffs by then so Hayward will leave. Ironically enough, I bet he will take a 4/40 deal if he is not an all star to play for a winner.

we'll see.

in addition, I think the FO has treated Hayward like crap through all this. They need to fix that as well.

Great managements

Favors - we love you
Favors - how about we trade you for #1 , oops, forget that
Hayward - no deal, see what the market pays
Hayward - got MAX, more flexible deal and trade penalty..
Favors - Hayward got what ? Dammit, why didn't my agent know the math


DL not too sharp in my book

 

[Coach Ellis]

I still believe in DL, but I agree that they missed the boat by letting him get to RFA. Even though there was a good chance the whole team was going to struggle last year, it made a lot more sense to lock him up, keep him happy and show him that they believed in him. They lost the right to dictate the terms of the deal by haggling over money that they couldn't control if they let it get this far.

Hope they learn their lesson with both Burks and Kanter. Both of those guys should get extended this offseason before they have a chance to break out.