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Hayward has agreed to an offer with Hornets

Funny thing is if we do not match Hayward will be a number 3 option in a so so team in the east, making 63 million in 4 years. I think this situation is even worse from Charlotte's point of view. Your 3rd option having a max contract and you're only a playoff team in the East. Can Hayward make Charlotte a top 3 team in East? I don't think so.


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colton said:
You're overestimating the Jazz. It's actually a pretty straightforward calculation to make.

Their actual record was 25-57.
Games against Western Conf: 13-39 (52 games, won 25%)
Games against Eastern Conf: 12-18 (30 games, won 40%)

If they had been in the East, they would have played 52 games against the East, winning 40% (=20.8 games) and 30 games against the West, winning 25% (=7.5 games). Total #wins in this model therefore = 28.3, so lets say 28-29 games.
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Cool and thanks for putting in the work. Still, Id take our roster anyday to what they have. Playoffs or not. Though I do hope we package some assets to quicken the rebuild. Im not sure how long we can go on losing.
 
colton said:
You're overestimating the Jazz. It's actually a pretty straightforward calculation to make.

Their actual record was 25-57.
Games against Western Conf: 13-39 (52 games, won 25%)
Games against Eastern Conf: 12-18 (30 games, won 40%)

If they had been in the East, they would have played 52 games against the East, winning 40% (=20.8 games) and 30 games against the West, winning 25% (=7.5 games). Total #wins in this model therefore = 28.3, so lets say 28-29 games.
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Hmmm...picking 8th/9th after the Lakers and maybe the Kings. Likely a choice between Vonleh and McBuckets.
 
Vermin said:
Cool and thanks for putting in the work. Still, Id take our roster anyday to what they have. Playoffs or not, though I do hope we package some assets to quicken the rebuild. Im not sure how long we can go on losing for.
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I think we need to know which assets to keep. In that respect, last year was pretty much a waste...except for finishing 4th worst and getting Dante. I think Exum, Burks and Hayward will be solid at the 1-2-3. I'm not sold yet on either Kanter or Favors. Wouldn't surprise me one bit to see Gobert emerge and for Lindsey to look for a better PF (3 and D type). If Marvin were a little bigger - and a little younger - he'd be a decent fit.
 
Vermin said:
Cool and thanks for putting in the work. Still, Id take our roster anyday to what they have. Playoffs or not. Though I do hope we package some assets to quicken the rebuild. Im not sure how long we can go on losing.
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dude, there's no doubt Hayseed's decision was based soley on teh cash.
 
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[size/HUGE] fixed [/size];868009 said:
dude, there's not doubt Hayseed's decision was based soley on teh cash.
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It will be interesting to see his attitude if/when he returns. Remember Paul's uncle asking Utah not to match the Portland offer and saying Millsap didn't want to play in SL after all the disrespect they were shown in the negotiating process? Paul came back and played like a professional. Well, until his final season when the effort just wasn't there. Still, I think any bad feelings were set aside and he would have re-upped with Utah last summer had they wanted to keep him.
 
Whatever the outcome and wherever Hayward ends up, this whole board meltdown is well worth the entertainment we'll get from the "I told ya so" crowds.. on both sides.. after EVERY game.
 
PKM said:
Whatever the outcome and wherever Hayward ends up, this whole board meltdown is well worth the entertainment we'll get from the "I told ya so" crowds.. on both sides.. after EVERY game.
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Doubt that will happen. I'm against the match, but if we do match I'm behind Hayward 100% and hope he can turn into a superstar like Paul George / Leonard, etc.
 
Hotttnickkk said:
Doubt that will happen. I'm against the match, but if we do match I'm behind Hayward 100% and hope he can turn into a superstar like Paul George / Leonard, etc.
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Duh.

But for those that say we shouldn't match (i.e. me) and he goes to Charlotte and puts up back-to-back 30+ point games, the "we should match" crowd screams at the top of their lungs.. same in reverse.

It WILL happen, no matter what.. and I'll love it, because drama is what I come here for.
 
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