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He had a permit, so was not arrested

He was not arrested but he might be charged with something. Maybe reckless endangerment? Are there laws about improper discharging of a firearm? Was their any property damage? Is so maybe Walmart will sue him for repairs.

Also scary about the newborn being in the cart of the woman that got hit.
 
I can't really argue with OB on this. Not sure why you need a loaded six shooter in your holster at all times.

Maybe one of the permit carrying dudes/chicks here can explain for me. Can you carry a loaded weapon, or does it have to be not loaded?
 
Triangle Man said:
I can't really argue with OB on this. Not sure why you need a loaded six shooter in your holster at all times.

Maybe one of the permit carrying dudes/chicks here can explain for me. Can you carry a loaded weapon, or does it have to be not loaded?
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In Utah a person can carry a concealed weapon that is loaded with a permit (CC permit). To get the permit it requires a class and a background check. Unfortunately not a shooting class. Which is why some other states, like Nevada, do not recognize Utah CC permits.
 
I'll tell you the TSA doesn't like it. But on the plus side it took 5 guys to take me down. I owe that old lady $20 or something, she ran interference very effectively, if not entirely willingly.
 
Stoked said:
In Utah a person can carry a concealed weapon that is loaded with a permit (CC permit). To get the permit it requires a class and a background check. Unfortunately not a shooting class. Which is why some other states, like Nevada, do not recognize Utah CC permits.
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Why are you loaded guns with permits? Is this for safety first chamber?
 
One Brow said:
https://posttrib.suntimes.com/news/...ide-columbus-wal-mart-store.html#.U4ik23JdV1b

I'm not a gun owner/user. That said, it seems like committing an unintentional injury is still some sort of crime. You get a ticket if your brakes fail and you hit a car; I'm pretty sure there are charges if your car hits a person in a non-fatal injury (battery of some sort?).
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I do not think give man civil offense like auto accident is very good thing. You American are too much soft on violent criminal. What you give him fifty US dollar fine and wish merry Christmas?
 
Eric, I read over the article and there's not enough information to make any sort of commentary. I mean did the guy brandish the weapon? It "fell" out of his holster? ********.


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VINYLONE said:
Eric, I read over the article and there's not enough information to make any sort of commentary. I mean did the guy brandish the weapon? It "fell" out of his holster? ********.


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I agree that it is very unlikely that it just "fell". They are designed to prevent that. Not only that but was there structural damage to Walmart? While perhaps there will be no criminal penalties (there may still be some) there may be civil penalties. Such as him getting sued.
 
VINYLONE said:
Eric, I read over the article and there's not enough information to make any sort of commentary. I mean did the guy brandish the weapon? It "fell" out of his holster? ********.
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My only commentary was that there should be some sort of penalty, which seems to be agreed upon by the gun owners in here. As for the truth of the man's story, I have no opinion, but a thought: Do holsters do break down from time to time and need to be replaced? Could a faulty holster allow a gun to slip out/discharge?
 
One Brow said:
My only commentary was that there should be some sort of penalty, which seems to be agreed upon by the gun owners in here. As for the truth of the man's story, I have no opinion, but a thought: Do holsters do break down from time to time and need to be replaced? Could a faulty holster allow a gun to slip out/discharge?
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Just like anything a damaged or faulty holster would not be as effective. Seeign as this guy is a CC holder that would lead me to believe that he is invested enough to not have a faulty/damaged holster. But anything is possible.

Question Brow. Let us say that this guy is a CC holder that knowingly used a damged/inappropriate holster for his pistol. Beyond any personal penalties he faces would you support gun restrictions as a result of this one irresponsible man?

How often does a gun "fall" out of a holster and discharge?
 
Stoked said:
Question Brow. Let us say that this guy is a CC holder that knowingly used a damged/inappropriate holster for his pistol. Beyond any personal penalties he faces would you support gun restrictions as a result of this one irresponsible man?

How often does a gun "fall" out of a holster and discharge?
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I suppose it depends on the type of gun restrictions. If the holster is at fault, I think a case like this could be used to support restrictions on the gun carrier regarding the condition of their holster. Do you think that would be too restrictive? I don't know how often this happens, but how often does something like this need to happen to make such restrictions reasonable?
 
One Brow said:
I suppose it depends on the type of gun restrictions. If the holster is at fault, I think a case like this could be used to support restrictions on the gun carrier regarding the condition of their holster. Do you think that would be too restrictive? I don't know how often this happens, but how often does something like this need to happen to make such restrictions reasonable?
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Fair question but unless broken holsters are not somehting that really stop working. They are either tough leather or preshapped plastic.

So unless this becomes a reoccuring problem, I have never heard it to be, than I don't think this would be a case to support gun restrictions. Beyond any potential penalties that individual may face.
 
Stoked said:
So unless this becomes a reoccuring problem, I have never heard it to be, than I don't think this would be a case to support gun restrictions. Beyond any potential penalties that individual may face.
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Did you mean gun restrictions generally, or restrictions on holster functionality specifically?
 
One Brow said:
My only commentary was that there should be some sort of penalty, which seems to be agreed upon by the gun owners in here. As for the truth of the man's story, I have no opinion, but a thought: Do holsters do break down from time to time and need to be replaced? Could a faulty holster allow a gun to slip out/discharge?
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Absolutely. At the very least it has to be some sort of negligence. Some sort of fine or something. I also dont have any sort of issue if he was sued in civil court for being a moron. As far as holsters go, they don't usually malfunction. I mean, even the cheaper ones are made from good leather or some sort of composite. They shouldnt break down. But who knows. Again, that article needs more info.

Stoked said:
But anything is possible.
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Exactly.

One Brow said:
I suppose it depends on the type of gun restrictions. If the holster is at fault, I think a case like this could be used to support restrictions on the gun carrier regarding the condition of their holster. Do you think that would be too restrictive? I don't know how often this happens, but how often does something like this need to happen to make such restrictions reasonable?
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The idea of a faulty holster brings to mind the gun manufacturer Lorcin from back in the day...

https://guns.wikia.com/wiki/Lorcin_Engineering_Company

The market to care of them.
 
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