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Here is an article I found interesting on the whole bell and mathews issue.

LunaticWolf said:
"Everything is Worth What a Purchaser Will Pay For It"
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It seems like a lot of people are repeating this sentiment as if it's some kind of philosophical revolution. It is, however, completely missing the point.

Value is not an absolute. It is a subjective measurement based on certain criteria for "usefulness" compared to other similar products. What you're talking about is called price. If an item is deemed valuable, it typically means that you get more out of it than the effort required to fulfill the cost. So a top quality HDTV selling for $800 dollars would be of great value, while a lesser quality HDTV at $2000 would be seen as overpriced, regardless of the ability of some to cover the price.

Matthews was overpaid partly as a tactical move to undermine the Jazz. It is not his true value, nor is it equal to his expected contributions (he's not twice as useful as Bell, for an example, and the Jazz offer is the highest Raja could find).
 
beantastic said:
Thanks interesting read.

Plus there was this little gem on the side bar. Apparently Brewer is taking the conversion to being a bull pretty seriously with the horns and mooing.
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Well, if no one else does, I will.
After all, I did have a tombstone with "Brewer RIP" as my avatar after the trade last season.

Edit: Awww, chawx beat my to it.

Maybe I'll have to do something Jefferson-related.
 
BabyPeterzz said:
After reading PDX forums on the Matthews issue, the one argument I keep reading over and over again is that the deal is good for the Blazers because once the first year is over, he can be easily traded. This is how they are convincing themselves this signing was worth it. Not that he's going to be an instant and valuable contributor, but more that he is somehow, at least, an asset that can be used to get a better player.

I hate this because we would've actually used and valued Wesley's contribution to our team. Good for him getting paid and all......but what a waste.
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Well, the cap hit will still be the same for any team, but the actual cash flow will be less due to the signing bonus. Just like how Millsap counts $8M against the cap, but the Millers only have to pay him $6M or so in actual cash.
 
BabyPeterzz said:
After reading PDX forums on the Matthews issue, the one argument I keep reading over and over again is that the deal is good for the Blazers because once the first year is over, he can be easily traded. This is how they are convincing themselves this signing was worth it. Not that he's going to be an instant and valuable contributor, but more that he is somehow, at least, an asset that can be used to get a better player.

I hate this because we would've actually used and valued Wesley's contribution to our team. Good for him getting paid and all......but what a waste.
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Doubt that, the cap hit still has 20% of the total bonus added on every year. To make him tradeable his stats would need to exceed what they were here. For that to happen he needs, besides luck, minutes. He isn't going to get minutes backing up Roy. They could go really small and put Roy at SF but small ball rarely works in this league.
 
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Chad Feldheimer said:
I think that is kind of dumb. You are worth what someone is willing to pay you.
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You are using the definition of "worth" to be "market value", others may think of worth as "the quality that makes something valuable" The problem with the "market value" definition, is that NBA players are not a part of a liquid trading market, it is all long-term contracts, so that as the value deviates from the contract price, the buyers have no way to reset the price of the contract to the new perceived worth. The perceived value by a team at the time of contract signing may be different from the actualized value.

So I don't think many people would say that AK is still worth his $86m contract, Marbury $76m, Kmart $91m, Diop $34m, Dampier $73m, Zach Randolph $84m, etc.
 
I look at it this way: Ya git paid what ya git paid. Me, I'm completely worthless whatever they pay me, cause I aint never gunna do nuthin. That don't keeps chumps from hirin me. I don't never last too long, true dat, but, then again, I never plan to. Once I clean out the cash register, I'm gone.
 
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