Hillary Clinton says Tulsi Gabbard is a 'Russian asset' groomed to ensure Trump reelection

[fishonjazz]

I gotta say, clicking on all those twitter links that thriller provided did show a lot of examples.
The redneck idiots in the "i'd rather be russian than a democrat" shirts were my favorite. Exemplifies a trumper to at T.

 

[RandyForRubio]

I gotta say, clicking on all those twitter links that thriller provided did show a lot of examples.
The redneck idiots in the "i'd rather be russian than a democrat" shirts were my favorite. Exemplifies a trumper to at T.

If one wants to waste enough
time, one can find plenty of examples of anything. Twitter is not a good sample of real life. I’m not denying the existence of idiots, I’m denying they’re the majority.

I mean, I could post examples of Louis Farrakhan and his followers on twitters, the DNC hosted Linda Sarsour who is pretty anti-Semitic. Look at how many major democratic candidates have come for Farrakhan’s approval, advice, etc.

By Thriller’s logic, that is and should be disqualifying. Or maybe, just maybe, both sides have their fair share of idiots.

 

[RandyForRubio]

We’re not talking about those outliers. We’re talking about the leaders of your party, most influential members of congress, and most popular tv propagandists.

I guess you can’t/won’t understand this concept as you don’t seem to believe that trump is the leader of your party. An opinion completely detached from reality. And you’ve yet to address MTG, JD Vance, and Tucker Carlson.

I don’t view Trump as the leader of the Republican Party. I don’t think he’ll get the nomination if he runs. Like I earlier said, I think McConnell would more accurately be called the leader of the party, not somebody who is currently not in office.

MTG isn’t well liked among her colleagues, and is an outlier among them. JD Vance is running for office, and most likely won’t get elected. If I want, I can find crazies among the candidates for office for the democrats too. They do exist. And Carlson. I don’t like him. Obviously some people do. But he doesn’t represent the party any more than Don Lemon, Jeff Zucker, and Chris Cuomo represent the Democrats. And you will find that Carlson actually had to change his viewpoint because his audience didn’t agree with it…which is an indictment on him on many levels, but read the tea leaves dude. He had to change because his audience disagreed. Who is his audience? The Russian lovers! But wait…that doesn’t make sense.

 

[Gameface]

I agree that one, there are people on the right, many of them directly connected to the Republican Party who support Putin, and two, that Putin support is not generally part of the Republican Party's platform.

I think these criticisms should be directed at individuals and not the Republican Party in general.

 

[Deleted member 365]

I don’t view Trump as the leader of the Republican Party. I don’t think he’ll get the nomination if he runs. Like I earlier said, I think McConnell would more accurately be called the leader of the party, not somebody who is currently not in office.

MTG isn’t well liked among her colleagues, and is an outlier among them. JD Vance is running for office, and most likely won’t get elected. If I want, I can find crazies among the candidates for office for the democrats too. They do exist. And Carlson. I don’t like him. Obviously some people do. But he doesn’t represent the party any more than Don Lemon, Jeff Zucker, and Chris Cuomo represent the Democrats. And you will find that Carlson actually had to change his viewpoint because his audience didn’t agree with it…which is an indictment on him on many levels, but read the tea leaves dude. He had to change because his audience disagreed. Who is his audience? The Russian lovers! But wait…that doesn’t make sense.

This is laughable. You don’t believe trump is the leader of the party? You’re wrong then. You’re completely detached from reality. You’re demanding others do that which you can’t do; argue in good faith. You’re gaslighting, you’re calling the sky green or that water isn’t wet. Cmon man, bebest

And as @fishonjazz said, those guys describe Trumpers to a T. You said before that you respected his opinion. Is he wrong?

But even if you believe those guys are outliers. You’re ignoring the leader of your party, the most influential members of congress, the most watched tv actors, and you’re denying the last 5 years of blatant Russian sycophancy from the right.

Again dude, grow up. Stop playing games. Stop gaslighting. Argue in good faith

 

[RandyForRubio]

You think MGT is among the most influential members of congress and I’m detached from reality?

Fair enough. Enjoy your day Thriller.

 

[Deleted member 365]

I don’t view Trump as the leader of the Republican Party. I don’t think he’ll get the nomination if he runs. Like I earlier said, I think McConnell would more accurately be called the leader of the party, not somebody who is currently not in office.

MTG isn’t well liked among her colleagues, and is an outlier among them. JD Vance is running for office, and most likely won’t get elected. If I want, I can find crazies among the candidates for office for the democrats too. They do exist. And Carlson. I don’t like him. Obviously some people do. But he doesn’t represent the party any more than Don Lemon, Jeff Zucker, and Chris Cuomo represent the Democrats. And you will find that Carlson actually had to change his viewpoint because his audience didn’t agree with it…which is an indictment on him on many levels, but read the tea leaves dude. He had to change because his audience disagreed. Who is his audience? The Russian lovers! But wait…that doesn’t make sense.

Carlson is the most watched personality on cable. Doesn’t matter if you don’t like him.
MTG is the top fundraiser in the House. Doesn’t matter if you don’t like her.
And lol at trump not getting the nomination if he runs. You’re definitely in the minority there.

This is your party. Maybe you need another party? One not so right wing authoritarian and pro putin?

 

[Deleted member 365]

You think MGT is among the most influential members of congress and I’m detached from reality?

Fair enough. Enjoy your day Thriller.

Marjorie Taylor Greene’s incredible fundraising haul reveals what’s really important to the GOP

Marjorie Taylor Greene raised more than $3 million in the first quarter of 2021.

www.vox.com

She’s the top fundraiser in the House and notice, she’s not being censured by Kevin McCarthy, unlike Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger. In fact, she has really to face any consequences for her crap. Why is that? Could it because she’s so influential?

If trump and green aren’t as powerful as I think they are, why has Cheney and Kinzinger been ostracized from the party instead of green and Trump?

Cmon man, be real for a change. Not sure if I’ve seen a more fake poster on this board in a long time. Cmon, be better than this.

 

[fishonjazz]

If one wants to waste enough
time, one can find plenty of examples of anything. Twitter is not a good sample of real life. I’m not denying the existence of idiots, I’m denying they’re the majority.

I mean, I could post examples of Louis Farrakhan and his followers on twitters, the DNC hosted Linda Sarsour who is pretty anti-Semitic. Look at how many major democratic candidates have come for Farrakhan’s approval, advice, etc.

By Thriller’s logic, that is and should be disqualifying. Or maybe, just maybe, both sides have their fair share of idiots.

When the DNC hosted linda sarsour did the crowd chant hitlers name? Post some twitter links of prominent democrats and their followers cheering for nazis or russians or the chinese or communists or something.
Thriller was able to easily and quickly finds lots of evidence. Maybe both sides have their fair share of idiots but maybe just one side seems to really be loud and celebratory about their idiots while also not condemning them ever. Thriller makes a good point about MTG and Trump not suffering consequences for their actions from their own party but their own party was quick to ostracize and censure cheney, kinzinger, and romney basically because they didn't like trump.

Are there any democrats being censured because they dont like AOC or Biden or Bernie or anything?

 

[Deleted member 365]

I agree that one, there are people on the right, many of them directly connected to the Republican Party who support Putin, and two, that Putin support is not generally part of the Republican Party's platform.

I think these criticisms should be directed at individuals and not the Republican Party in general.

I might’ve agreed with this in 2015-2016. Maybe just maybe after. But not after Mueller. Not after Helsinki. And especially not after that first impeachment. That was so beyond the pale. Blackmailing Ukraine, holding up much needed military aid to defend itself against Putin, in exchange for dirt on Biden. And every Republican with the exception of Romney said, “we good with this.” And then the 2020 election, more republicans than before, saw all the pro Russian ******** and said, “hell Yah, we want 4 more years of this.”

To me, the conservatives who had principle and character, like @colton have already left/been ostracized.

We need a healthy conservative party. But the current Republican Party isn’t it. And IMO, the overwhelming pro putin rhetoric and Russian-esque authoritarianism (blackmailing Ukraine, asking Russia for help, Jan 6, Fox News lying, LGBT/African American book banning, voter suppression, etc) should compel us to create one by voting for Democrats for the next few election cycles. Seriously, send the GOP into the wilderness until 2026 and I think we’ll find a healthy and diverse party. One that competes for voters, not one suppresses them. One that stands up to Russia, not one that calls Putin genius for invading Ukraine.

 

[Deleted member 365]

I know @RandyForRubio doesnt think he’s the GOP’s leader. But this is happening RIGHT NOW at CPAC (again, if he isn’t their leader why is he their main speaker tonight?). Btw, McConnell, Pence, and Kemp weren’t invited/didn’t attend. If they’re the real leaders of the party, why wouldn’t they be at CPAC?

 

[fishonjazz]

I know @RandyForRubio doesnt think he’s the GOP’s leader. But this is happening RIGHT NOW at CPAC (again, if he isn’t their leader why is he their main speaker tonight?). Btw, McConnell, Pence, and Kemp weren’t invited/didn’t attend. If they’re the real leaders of the party, why wouldn’t they be at CPAC?

Trump is just the worst.