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Hmmmm you don’t say?

This conversation started about how Donovan and Rudy aren't in sync. Why they seem to be disjointed.

We can break down offensive sets, pros and cons, and everything all we want. Numbers say that Don and Rudy could work on the basketball court well together. There are even some measures that say Don is better running the offense with Rudy than Conley is (which is frustrating for the Don at PG enthusiasts who want to see Don as our starting PG so he can grow into the role).

My personal opinion, and that's what most of this forum is, tells me that Rudy and Don simply don't like each other. They irritate each other. Don isn't leaving for a bigger market. He might want to leave because he isn't happy.
You can try to put lipstick on a pig, but we all still know it’s a pig.
 
If he gets selected to a third straight All Star game, he's definitely a superstar when adding in his playoff performances. The guy has averaged 32+ppg and 5+apg in the 2021 playoffs and 36+ppg and 5apg in the 2020 playoffs. Any superstar would brag about those numbers.
Mitchell's usage increases massively in the playoffs, and while his scoring improves, some other metrics slide off. He's a better version of Monta Eliis right now.
 
Except when it doesn't. Sometimes, there is all kinds of random speculation and then no trade happens at all. For how many years has there been speculation of Lilliard being traded or signing somewhere else?
Yes, and Lillard has shut it down hard multiple times. Donovan had his canned response his team told him to say. “Just say you’re focused on winning a championship”.

Reporter: There was a report on the Windhorst podcast…

Donovan interrupting acting irritated: “we’re trying to win a championship, why are y’all talking about that”

Reporter: “why did you like the tweet about Rudy”

Donovan: “we just need to win tonight”


The dude will not answer anything. Don’t compare him to Lillard, because he’s nothing like Lillard. Giannis had plenty of rumors around his name too. Know what he said over and over? “I’m committed to winning a title in Milwaukee and this is where I want to be”. You act like that’s hard to do, it’s not unless the rumors are true and you know you don’t mean it or you’re afraid you’re undercutting the narrative and turn your team is trying to make for you behind the scenes. They’re slowly building a narrative here and it’s to get out of SLC.
 
Mitchell is never ever ever going to actually address anything.
Which is another way of saying you have no evidence and are just running on speculation.

And saying Tim is not plugged in is asinine, Tim is probably one of if not THE most plugged in national Jazz source. He was in studio, in Salt Lake for a story he’s writing yesterday.
Tim goes al over the country, and doesn't focus on the Jazz.
 
Mitchell's usage increases massively in the playoffs, and while his scoring improves, some other metrics slide off. He's a better version of Monta Eliis right now.
C'mon man, everybody knows that's an insult. His playoff numbers the last two postseasons have been incredible. Also add in that he has put up the numbers with at least one other offensive weapon being out if not two. So more of the defense got to focus on him and he still did what he did.
 
Yes, and Lillard has shut it down hard multiple times. Donovan had his canned response his team told him to say. “Just say you’re focused on winning a championship”.

Reporter: There was a report on the Windhorst podcast…

Donovan interrupting acting irritated: “we’re trying to win a championship, why are y’all talking about that”

Reporter: “why did you like the tweet about Rudy”

Donovan: “we just need to win tonight”


The dude will not answer anything. Don’t compare him to Lillard, because he’s nothing like Lillard. Giannis had plenty of rumors around his name too. Know what he said over and over? “I’m committed to winning a title in Milwaukee and this is where I want to be”. You act like that’s hard to do, it’s not unless the rumors are true and you know you don’t mean it or you’re afraid you’re undercutting the narrative and turn your team is trying to make for you behind the scenes. They’re slowly building a narrative here and it’s to get out of SLC.
Lillard's persona is crafted. It's not real. He wants out of Portland. He just cant let that be a rumor because he has built his brand on being loyal.
 
Which is another way of saying you have no evidence and are just running on speculation.


Tim goes al over the country, and doesn't focus on the Jazz.
He literally does lol. The Jazz are one of the main teams he covers, just like the Mavs are. Sure he goes outside that box but he covers certain geographical areas for ESPN, especially come playoff time. He’s on local radio every single week.

As for your top statement, well that defense really says it all. It’s pretty easy to shut down the rumors, just once.
 
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Lillard's persona is crafted. It's not real. He wants out of Portland. He just cant let that be a rumor because he has built his brand on being loyal.
A hard disagree. Lillard has proven that’s who he is his whole life, from his high school to choosing Weber f***** State because they recruited him first. It’s who he is. Does he want out sometimes? Yeah probably, but who he is, is what won’t let him do it, and he’s 100% right, it’s harder to do what he’s doing than to jump ship and go win a free championship.


Btw, I wouldn’t say Donovan’s in the same situation. I think Donovan simply needs to grow up and be a better foundation for his team and he has plenty more talent around him than Lillard.
 
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