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Hmmmm you don’t say?

This conversation started about how Donovan and Rudy aren't in sync. Why they seem to be disjointed.

We can break down offensive sets, pros and cons, and everything all we want. Numbers say that Don and Rudy could work on the basketball court well together. There are even some measures that say Don is better running the offense with Rudy than Conley is (which is frustrating for the Don at PG enthusiasts who want to see Don as our starting PG so he can grow into the role).

My personal opinion, and that's what most of this forum is, tells me that Rudy and Don simply don't like each other. They irritate each other. Don isn't leaving for a bigger market. He might want to leave because he isn't happy.
They may not like each other. Sure, whatever. I don't really care. But you said Don is sick of what Rudy needs and wants but fail to answer what those are and then sneak in lines which are objectively false like system being built around Rudy.

I am just curious.
 
They may not like each other. Sure, whatever. I don't really care. But you said Don is sick of what Rudy needs and wants but fail to answer what those are and then sneak in lines which are objectively false like system being built around Rudy.

I am just curious.
The system is built around Rudy. I can't believe you, or anybody else, are still trying to have this argument.

On defense, we do the funnel to Rudy.

On offense, he sets the screens which initiate the offense.

Not every single play is run around Rudy because that's impossible, However, we built the fundamentals of our team around Rudy Gobert.

I'm not judging if how we are built is right or wrong. I'm simply saying that if Don doesn't like Rudy, then maybe it irritates him.
 
C'mon man, everybody knows that's an insult. His playoff numbers the last two postseasons have been incredible.
His box score stats have been incredible. Some of his advanced stats actually fell. However, I'm not going to get into a detailed discussion of that. We agree Mitchell's very good and hard to replace.
 
He literally does lol. The Jazz are one of the main teams he covers, just like the Mavs are. Sure he goes outside that box but he covers certain geographical areas for ESPN, especially come playoff time. He’s on local radio every single week.
His twitter feed and article list says differently.

As for your top statement, well that defense really says it all. It’s pretty easy to shut down the rumors, just once.
Actually, it's impossible to shut down rumors. No matter what you sy or how you say it, the rumors will persist.
What questions has he answered in regards to it. I’ll wait:
No doubt, because there are no answers that will satisfy you.
 
The system is built around Rudy. I can't believe you, or anybody else, are still trying to have this argument.

On defense, we do the funnel to Rudy.

On offense, he sets the screens which initiate the offense.

Not every single play is run around Rudy because that's impossible, However, we built the fundamentals of our team around Rudy Gobert.

I'm not judging if how we are built is right or wrong. I'm simply saying that if Don doesn't like Rudy, then maybe it irritates him.
Defensive players are at their best when they are free. Rudy is not free, he has to constantly worry about the rim because if he is not there. Mitchell, Clarkson, Bogey, Ingles gets blown by and it's a basket every time. Funnel is as much of a necessity as it is building around Rudy. If we had better defenders on perimeter like Miami, we would see Rudy be as effective on switches as Adebayo. All that said, Mitchell doesn't help a **** on defense whatever the system is so he isn't doing what Rudy needs and wants. Also it's not building around a guy when you pile up every problem on him. Similarly, I will never blame Don for his struggles offensively against Houston.

On offense, he sets screens incessantly which help Mitchell become the most efficient PnR guard in the league. Mitchell, who is about average creating without a screen, benefits from Rudy's screens. Bigs like Allen and Ayton fit the same way. It feels ridiculous to say Phoenix have built their offense around Ayton, though. Quin just maximizes it because Rudy has elite level conditioning and Jazz struggle to pressure the rim without a screen. It's one of the reasons, the small ball hasn't worked as well as it should.

I am just bothered by how you say Don does everything when he doesn't.
 
Defensive players are at their best when they are free. Rudy is not free, he has to constantly worry about the rim because if he is not there. Mitchell, Clarkson, Bogey, Ingles gets blown by and it's a basket every time. Funnel is as much of a necessity as it is building around Rudy. If we had better defenders on perimeter like Miami, we would see Rudy be as effective on switches as Adebayo. All that said, Mitchell doesn't help a **** on defense whatever the system is so he isn't doing what Rudy needs and wants. Also it's not building around a guy when you pile up every problem on him. Similarly, I will never blame Don for his struggles offensively against Houston.

On offense, he sets screens incessantly which help Mitchell become the most efficient PnR guard in the league. Mitchell, who is about average creating without a screen, benefits from Rudy's screens. Bigs like Allen and Ayton fit the same way. It feels ridiculous to say Phoenix have built their offense around Ayton, though. Quin just maximizes it because Rudy has elite level conditioning and Jazz struggle to pressure the rim without a screen. It's one of the reasons, the small ball hasn't worked as well as it should.

I am just bothered by how you say Don does everything when he doesn't.
I never said Donovan does everything. The guy needs to work harder on defense, and he could be more efficient on offense.

I said that the screens can lead to good numbers. It's not about stats. My point isn't about who is better. My point was about the instability of the team.

What I'm saying is that MY OPINION is that Donovan wants his own team. He wants to be the man like he is when the playoffs come around. I think that he doesn't get along with Rudy, and it irritates him that Rudy is constantly going public to air his issues when Rudy isn't some perfect player either. Despite being possibly good for one another in on court situations, their personalities do not mesh. Rudy is irritating the hell out of Donovan, and they need to be split up.
 
His twitter feed and article list says differently.


Actually, it's impossible to shut down rumors. No matter what you sy or how you say it, the rumors will persist.

No doubt, because there are no answers that will satisfy you.
So you can't answer with one quote, yeah, no surprise there. Because he hasn't.
 
I never said Donovan does everything. The guy needs to work harder on defense, and he could be more efficient on offense.

I said that the screens can lead to good numbers. It's not about stats. My point isn't about who is better. My point was about the instability of the team.

What I'm saying is that MY OPINION is that Donovan wants his own team. He wants to be the man like he is when the playoffs come around. I think that he doesn't get along with Rudy, and it irritates him that Rudy is constantly going public to air his issues when Rudy isn't some perfect player either. Despite being possibly good for one another in on court situations, their personalities do not mesh. Rudy is irritating the hell out of Donovan, and they need to be split up.
Then Donovan wants to win 30 games a year and not make the playoffs lol.
 
Then Donovan wants to win 30 games a year and not make the playoffs lol.
Just because we are built around Rudy and win a good regular season rate around Rudy doesn't mean the only way to play winning Jazz basketball is to play the way we do right now.
 
Just because we are built around Rudy and win a good regular season rate around Rudy doesn't mean the only way to play winning Jazz basketball is to play the way we do right now.
So Donovan wants to win 30 games and miss the playoffs so he can be the guy got it.
 
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