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Homeopathic Accident and Emergency First Aid Kit

Vermin said:
I take Xanax for panic attacks and recently my dr is trying to steer me into homeopathics. I am dropping him. A 30 day supply lasts me about 90 days so not like I abuse them and in fact can't imagine why anyone would. Anyways not risking my career on some mystical pill if I feel an attack coming on.
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How often do you exercise?

AKMVP said:
Yup, placebo effect.
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This reminds of a podcast episode from Science Fridays I recently listened to. It ties in perfectly with what you guys are talking about:

https://www.sciencefriday.com/segment/01/10/2014/migraine-study-reveals-the-power-of-placebo.html
 
ElRoach0 said:
Homeopathic is also known as "doesn't work".


The more you know
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Not true at all. One of the problems with "homeopathic" products is they have not been subjected to strict scientific studies. As long as the disclaimer is read/printed that "these statements have not been evaluated by the FDA" most anything can be claimed. There should be more regulation on these products: at least have them pass a double blind test and show some possibility of being effective. Because there are some good products out there. But the plethora of bad ones give the category a bad reputation.
 
The bulk make the stereotype. There's oft truth behind many, but only a small grain

For my money, homeopathic is like a quarter step above Faith healing.
 
dalamon said:
I also hate people with Masters in mathematics degrees acting like they're medical professionals and modern-day prophets, as they tend to compose emotionally-charged blanket generalizations-- resulting in calling every practicing homeopath a parasite.


As usual, your ideas tend to be rooted in empirical truth, but your delivery is of the lowest of grades, OB. Hopefully you'll learn some-day (which isn't far-fetched, for one who claims to be as truth-seeking as yourself).
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They are parasites. They offer nothing of value over a placebo. There are homeopaths who earnestly believe in the effectiveness of their treatments, who want nothing more than to help others while making a modest living, who have motives similar to any doctor. They are unwitting parasites, but parasites nonetheless.

However, I do really appreciate your tone-trolling. Hopefully, one day you'll learn that, just as we need those who speak softly and and gently, we also need those who speak loudly and harshly.
 
Core4 said:
Not true at all. One of the problems with "homeopathic" products is they have not been subjected to strict scientific studies. As long as the disclaimer is read/printed that "these statements have not been evaluated by the FDA" most anything can be claimed. There should be more regulation on these products: at least have them pass a double blind test and show some possibility of being effective. Because there are some good products out there. But the plethora of bad ones give the category a bad reputation.
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Many types of homeopathic preparations have been subjected to double-blind studies, they pass them as often as you would expect them randomly (the green-jelly-bean effect).

They get around it today by making unspecific claims and displaying some form of the "quack miranda" warning on their products.
 
One Brow said:
They are unwitting parasites, but parasites nonetheless.
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Seeing as this statement could be applied to thousands of occupations-- to mankind even-- it weakens the scope of your argument considerably, and I have no reason to continue discussion.

However, I do really appreciate your tone-trolling. Hopefully, one day you'll learn that, just as we need those who speak softly and and gently, we also need those who speak loudly and harshly.
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Seeing as your harsh, alienating delivery hasn't really garnered a large OB-following in a forum with 2000< posters, I see no reason why it could work in the real world. I'll keep doin me, and you do you.
 
dalamon said:
Seeing as this statement could be applied to thousands of occupations-- to mankind even-- it weakens the scope of your argument considerably, and I have no reason to continue discussion.

Seeing as your harsh, alienating delivery hasn't really garnered a large OB-following in a forum with 2000< posters, I see no reason why it could work in the real world. I'll keep doin me, and you do you.
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Why stop at mankind? If the definition is "any living thing that does not produce it's own food", it would be all all non-plant life. If it were, "anything that relies on outside sources for energy", it would be all life. However, if you position is "why make a big deal of people pushing quack medical cures instead of actual medicine", perhaps you should bow out.

I wasn't aware that I needed, or wanted, a following. What I have seen is that slowly, gradually, the conversation moves, and mostly in the direction I would prefer. It may not be influence, almost certainly not entirely, but I am part of the background.

Why do you feel it's so important to have a following? Or, if you don't, why did you bring it up as a criticism?
 
One Brow said:
Why stop at mankind? If the definition is "any living thing that does not produce it's own food", it would be all all non-plant life. If it were, "anything that relies on outside sources for energy", it would be all life.
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Ah lovely-- you agree with me then.




However, if you position is "why make a big deal of people pushing quack medical cures instead of actual medicine", perhaps you should bow out.
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Nope-- rather, I was saying that if you justify your inferred-disgust with homeopaths with terms such as unwilling-parasites (which we agreed on being meaningless), then I perceive the discussion to be not worth my time.

I wasn't aware that I needed, or wanted, a following. What I have seen is that slowly, gradually, the conversation moves, and mostly in the direction I would prefer. It may not be influence, almost certainly not entirely, but I am part of the background.

Why do you feel it's so important to have a following? Or, if you don't, why did you bring it up as a criticism?
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Because I simply think that my method of communication, intelligent-discourse, and knowledge-exchange > yours.
 
Scat said:
Wanna see a really cool parasite?

https://phenomena.nationalgeographi...e-eating-fish-parasites-never-cease-to-amaze/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=327-bwMQI-Y&feature=player_embedded
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Ooo, that's nasty. Here is a closeup of the thing:

predator.jpg
 
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