How Dante's injury could impact the Jazz future

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Now that is a more logical approach but that is not the way he was presenting them. If that is what he was trying then Jesus he did a bad job.

He did say "to be fair"..."take it for what it's worth"..."may not suck as bad"

 

[fishonjazz]

Gobert can cover for Burke's numerous mistakes so Burke must not really be that bad!
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Maybe Gobert was covering for Exum mistakes on defense too and that's why Exum looked good defensively?

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I'd like to see us make a play for Bradley or Collison. We have the assets, we have to use some cap space for next year, (I have no idea what we plan to do with our space next year, but we likely aren't going to sign anyone and there aren't any teams that will likely be giving up assets to take on dead salary), and I don't think that Burke, Neto/Cotton are going to be good enough at the pg spot to get us to the playoffs. I'd be fine with Neto/Cotton backing up someone more proven.

I don't think Collison is available until they are eliminated from the playoff hunt though, but could become fairly cheap. I would hate to try and strike a deal with Ainge (he always wants too much) although they really need to move one of their combo guard types. They also already have 17 guaranteed contracts on their roster. I would trade our first rounder next year (top 3 protected) and a couple unguaranteed guys to get it done. Sadly I think they'd want more.

This has got me all sorts of depressed. Was so excited to see Dante's progression. Although a year sitting on the bench learning may end up helping him long-term.

 

[My2Cents]

He blamed Burke's bad D on Kanter. Kanter's D did suck but that is shoddy work on whitewashing Burke's own poor D.

Gobert can cover for Burke's numerous mistakes so Burke must not really be that bad!

That is directly the Kanter blame game.

Edit: One can pick a stat to support almost anything so yes they can often be miss used.

For example. Burke shot 55% on spot ups so he has good efficiency. When one takes a closer look they realize there is more to the story.

Here's what he said.

Trey Burke defensive rating with Enes Kanter was 110.1. With Rudy Gobert was 99.7. Lots of Trey bad defense was who he was with.

He's making the point that Trey's defensive rating suffered from playing with Kanter. The numbers seem to bear him out. I guess you can interpret that as Locke playing a Kanter blame game if you want, but I don't see it that way. He didn't say Trey was a good defender and Locke also posted the second set of numbers comparing Exum and Burke when playing with Gobert and Favors. It is much easier to play defense on the perimeter when you have great defensive bigs behind you. Opposing guards are less likely to drive and are challenged when they do.

 

[Stoked]

Here's what he said. He's making the point that Trey's defensive rating suffered from playing with Kanter. The numbers seem to bear him out. I guess you can interpret that as Locke playing a Kanter blame game if you want, but I don't see it that way. He didn't say Trey was a good defender and Locke also posted the second set of numbers comparing Exum and Burke when playing with Gobert and Favors. It is much easier to play defense on the perimeter when you have great defensive bigs behind you. Opposing guards are less likely to drive and are challenged when they do.

All those tweets are about whitewashing Burke's bad D. You don't want to see it that way then fine. I do and it's a bad argument.

 

[JazzForLifee]

Locke is in full spin mode this morning.

He is doing damage control by playing up Burke. Using isolated stats like +/- and saying things like ""Lots of Trey bad defense was who he was with". That's a direct reference and blame game on Kanter.

Horrible logic. Ugh, come on Locke.

he is trying his best... it's better than saying we are ****ed defensively without exum :/ and we will still be fine without him this year. just concerned about his development...


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[Maneesh]

All those tweets are about whitewashing Burke's bad D. You don't want to see it that way then fine. I do and it's a bad argument.

And he is spinning like you say. All of suden Jazz mouthpiece is pretend Burke was all the time fine even though he tries and say he is not before? What is this?

 

[Twin Towers]

Bright side to Dante's injury is Neto will get plenty of playing time and we can find out what we have.

Trey and Neto will most likely split the playing time.

Whoever is playing well will get a bump in minutes. Both should get 24 minutes each.

I think Cotton will play spot minutes or will take some of Neto's minutes if he is playing bad.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Go listen to the Lowe Post... They talk about the Jazz and literally go on a cake baking tangent. I think they are trolling us.

My final thoughts on this before I disappear for a while again. Jazz will have to wait until the season is underway to trade for a point guard replacement. Right now everyone thinks they have a shot and no one will give us what we want at a fair price. Let some stuff play out and take some time to see what Burke/Neto/ Cotton give us... move from there.

 

[My2Cents]

You don't want to see it that way then fine. I do and it's a bad argument.

That doesn't make you right. Locke is a numbers guy so he's tweeting out numbers on something that everyone is talking about. Maybe it's an effort to talk Jazz fans away from the edge, but it's not some big Jazz conspiracy to make everyone think Trey is a great defender.

 

[gregbroncs]

That doesn't make you right. Locke is a numbers guy so he's tweeting out numbers on something that everyone is talking about. Maybe it's an effort to talk Jazz fans away from the edge, but it's not some big Jazz conspiracy to make everyone think Trey is a great defender.

Locke is great at finding stats that fit his current opinion on the team. His current opinion on the team is always the company line that they want to push. ALWAYS. And he will find #'s to fit the new company line as soon as it changes. This is the guy that was loving Kanter till he was traded then he had #'s to show he's not worth it. While he was here he had #'s to show he was a good fit and deserved his minutes. His stats are virtually worthless because he only hunts down the ones that back his standing. And dismisses any that don't, until they serve his purpose that is.

 

[karl malone]

As mentioned above, I think we will likely wait to see what we have in Burke/Neto/Cotton (& their affect on the success of the team). If none of them are able to step in & fill the void, I hope we are able to acquire (at least) an average starting caliber PG (preferably one under contract beyond next year as insurance incase Exum is unable to return/not 100% within a year), which is all I think the team needs to be playoff caliber (which is likely imperative, at least by the following season, in order to retain Hayward- which is likely imperative to the long-term future of the franchise). This is without a doubt a serious setback to the team's long-term development, but luckily there aren't many FO's that I'd rather have dealing with our current situation. There also aren't many coaches that I'd rather have dealing with the situation as I believe Snyder will (hopefully) be able to get Burke to play within the offense (now that he likely feels less pressure to perform in order to retain his starting position) & use Neto's(defense, passing)/Cotton's(up-tempo style) differing skill sets in the correct situations in order to get the most out of our current group of PG's.