How Did Draft Lottery Impact Jazz

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  1. Wes Mantooth

    Wes Mantooth Well-Known Member

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    How were we gonna get Jrue? Acquiring him has had to be the most ridiculous narrative over the past few weeks.
     
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  2. Handlogten's Heros

    Handlogten's Heros Well-Known Member 2019 Award Winner

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    It has to do with not wasting another year in his prime and being able to get the big contract next year from his preferred destination.
     
  3. Thee jazz fan

    Thee jazz fan Well-Known Member

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    Exactly. It was a look of “we got screwed, WTF” I thought to myself... try being a jazz fan you ****!!!
     
  4. Thee jazz fan

    Thee jazz fan Well-Known Member

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    If course the one year there was a Mormon expected to be drafted top three the jazz move back to #5. WTH!!
     
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  5. prodigy

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    Im just wondering if the jazz have enough. Local media seems convinced this helps the jazz to get conley but they arent saying what the jazz need to put together to get it done. The 23rd pick + grayson allen is probably not that enticing for what they could get from other teams.
     
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  6. NUMBERICA

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    The Jazz don’t have a bunch of prime assets, but no one with prime assets is probably sending them for Conley. I think Boston is a dark horse if/when Kyrie leaves, but after that, I can’t easily think of other teams that simultaneously:
    1. Need a point guard
    2. Are win-now
    3. Can make the trade work financially (have the salary to send while also staying under the LT)

    The market is not the best and I don’t think it gets better.

    Now, the Grizzlies don’t HAVE to trade Conley, but if they are, I think we’re in good position (especially if we can absorb some of that salary beyond the 150% returning salary thing).

    It’s also worth noting the Grizzlies just kind of blew up their organization and I think that bodes well for us.
     
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  7. mellow

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    Except that Milwaukee is like a suburb of chicago so many people considered Jabari a home town kid and the Bucks getting him in the lottery was very fortunate timing for Senator Kohl to maximize his asking price as he sold the team. It also helped generate public support for public financing of a new arena.

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    On September 18, 2013, then-deputy NBA commissioner Adam Silver toured the arena and said it was a few thousand square feet short of NBA standards, and also lacked numerous amenities.[16] On April 16, 2014, Kohl announced an agreement to sell the franchise to New York City hedge-fund investors Marc Lasry and Wesley Edens. The deal included provisions for $100 million each from Kohl and the new ownership group, for a total of $200 million, toward the construction of a new downtown arena.[17] Soon afterward, the NBA gave the Bucks an ultimatum—get a new arena, or be close to completing a new arena, by the start of the 2017–18 season. If not, the league would buy the franchise from Lasry and Edens and sell the Bucks to one of two prospecting ownership groups; one in Las Vegas and the other in Seattle, which would have meant the certain departure of the Bucks from Milwaukee. On July 15, 2015, the Wisconsin Senate approved funding for the new arena by a 21–10 margin
     
  8. mellow

    mellow Well-Known Member

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    Does the trade kicker make it so he can earn more on his next Max contract?
     
  9. Thee jazz fan

    Thee jazz fan Well-Known Member

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    Then Chicago should’ve got the pick. Don’t buy it.
     
  10. mellow

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    Chicago didnt need public financing to help a Senator close a sale and make a huge profit....Milwaukee did. Jabari was closest thing to a hometown star.

    Or there is nothing conspiratorial and it was just a well timed coincident that happened to make several rich people richer.
     
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  11. Sandman822

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    It was my pipe dream lol
     
  12. Douchebag K

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    I offered to burn my eldest child alive at the stake if t would have helped get Jrue ...
     
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  13. NAOS

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    Did it eclipse the earlier narrative about Horford maybe playing PF?
     
  14. Wes Mantooth

    Wes Mantooth Well-Known Member

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    There never was such a narrative.
     
  15. Avery

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    Zion ain’t going back to college. That would be a terrible decision.

    1. Blows out a knee and suddenly is damaged goods.

    2. Teams drafting at the top aren’t supposed to be good. Who’s to say that next year is going to be any better?

    3. Losers mentality. If you are already such a diva that you won’t play for some organizations before accomplishing a single thing on a NBA court, you’ve already bought your own hype.
     
  16. Rubashov

    Rubashov Well-Known Member 2019 Award Winner

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    I dunno it could be a smart move, injury is the only real risk, but a move next year to a bigger market could well make it worth the risk. Im not saying im a fan of this but i see the logic.
     
  17. Ellis269

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    That, plus it starts the clock on his max contracts if he does pan out. No sense in putting it off. If you’re really unhappy, do what Hayward did. That’s the quickest way out the door. RFA, 4 year contract with the last year PO on the rookie extension.
     
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  18. NAOS

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    oh, that's right. Twas too dumb of an idea to get traction.
     
  19. Handlogten's Heros

    Handlogten's Heros Well-Known Member 2019 Award Winner

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    One thing to watch... I don't think the Lakers have max space as is right now. Since they moved up in the draft it eats up about 3.5M... they have lots of movable young players but may need to move Hart, Wagner, or a bigger piece to get to max room. They can't quite get there by moving Bonga...

    They kind of need all the ammo they can get to send to NO in an AD trade. So not moving Ball, Ingram, #4, or Kuzma pre-draft... I'd love to get Hart for a few seconds... I'd take Wagner for a second or two... I'm not sure they can extract a future first for those guys... anyway something to watch. I think we have a trade exception from the AB Korver trade we could use.
     
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  20. framer

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    The Laker's "talent" is crap, as is the #4 pick in a two person draft. I wouldn't even give Tatum for that offer let alone Davis. Davis > Tatum > Laker's crap. I do fully expect the Pelicans to feign interest in the Lakers offer to drive up the price for Davis. But Tatum + Zion + Jrue + whatever else you can pry out of the Celtics is better than whatever you would get out of LA. That isn't even beginning to touch other offers that might be available.
     

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