What's new

How Green Are You?

I'm only green when it's financially convenient. The green movement was born out of the 1980's propoganda campaign to brainwash kids into thinking population will destroy the world. The opposite has happened and today the environment is cleaner than it's ever been. That's why they created global warming as a last ditch effort to convince us we need to go back to the stone age.

We need to take a wrecking ball to the EPA. If anything the bat **** crazy right wingers get right that is it.
 
You're so naive it's cute. Environmentalism is a luxury for the rich. Think about it.

It is a luxury for the secure, not the rich. Where I come from, very few people give a **** about the environment. That applies to both rich and poor. They have more immediate problems to worry about, and environmentalism simply hasn't made it into their consciousness. People in developed countries, both rich and poor, tend to care a lot more about the environment. It is yet another reason why industrialization is so important to the long term survival of mankind.
 
I generally see Franklin as a pretty smart, critical thinking guy who understands what is going on around him. Unless he is trolling, that perception is far from correct on this topic.
 
You're so naive it's cute.

Heh, that's cute coming from a college mindset brat.

You'll be hard pressed to prove otherwise, unless you're going back before the industrial age when mankind slaughtered species wholesale if it fit there needs. Nobody wants to go back to that.
 
Heh, that's cute coming from a college mindset brat.

Your words, not mine. Also, I'd love to hear why my words are cute based on the fact that I'm still going to college.

You'll be hard pressed to prove otherwise, unless you're going back before the industrial age when mankind slaughtered species wholesale if it fit there needs. Nobody wants to go back to that.

Find me any proof that the oceans are currently at their cleanest point in the world's history.
 
It is a luxury for the secure, not the rich. Where I come from, very few people give a **** about the environment. That applies to both rich and poor. They have more immediate problems to worry about, and environmentalism simply hasn't made it into their consciousness. People in developed countries, both rich and poor, tend to care a lot more about the environment. It is yet another reason why industrialization is so important to the long term survival of mankind.

Fair enough, I suppose, but if you want to get hyper-philosophical as you tend to then security is also a luxury of being rich. You're really only arguing the relativity of what is rich.

Humanity, life, whatever you want to define it starts from a simple stage of survival and progresses upwards. Environmentalism is pretty damn high on the pyramid of necessity. It also happens to be symbiotic so rich developed vs poor developed doesn't make much of a difference. Having the luxury of maintaining a clean environment as a society is, at some point on the individual level, self beneficial to society at large. That's basically the reason we ended up cleaning up the trash we laid waste for about 50 years.
 
Siro is right. Places start getting cleaning up after they develop. It's the development process that is the biggest problem. But, Economics > Mother Earth. I don't want to stunt a poor countries development.
 
Find me any proof that the oceans are currently at their cleanest point in the world's history.

Well isn't that quite the goalpost to set. You want God's garden of eden or what? Prove they're the dirtiest and define Eden as well please.


Siro is right. Places start getting cleaning up after they develop. It's the development process that is the biggest problem. But, Economics > Mother Earth. I don't want to stunt a poor countries development.

There is a more than a bit of money guilt trying to pay back the sins of our grandfathers.
 
Siro is right. Places start getting cleaning up after they develop. It's the development process that is the biggest problem. But, Economics > Mother Earth. I don't want to stunt a poor countries development.

Getting cleaning up?

Spreak Engrish please
 
Back
Top