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How long does a SUCCESSFUL tank need to be?

Schrödinger's Gerbil said:
Whoops, sorry, I didn't catch that your context was rebuilding more broadly. No, a rebuild is more than tanking, whereas tanking is one possible rebuild strategy. I think we'd agree on that.

Even then, requiring 10 years for a rebuild is evidence of gross mismanagement. If you can't figure out how to rebuild a struggling team in significantly less than 10 years, you have no business running a team.
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Took the jazz 10 years to rebuild from the time the jazz moved to Utah and took 4 more years after drafting Stockton and Malone, and considering they were drafted 13th and 16th in back to back drafts that’s bad as lucky as it gets. If not for that, God knows how long they’d be rebuilding from that point it took about eight years to reach the finals.

The Spurs drafted Wemby two years ago almost and they’re about to have their second losing season adding the right players isn’t an exact science. There’s a lot of luck based in the whole equation of rebuilding and building a winner. It happens when it happens. It doesn’t mean it’s a crappy organization, crappy organizations, sure, but as long as an organization is moving forward the build goes well.

There’s 3 stages in a rebuild.

1. Tear down
2. Build up
3. Learn to win.

There’s no quantifying length of time that is considered for a good rebuild, depending on luck and other situations defines how long a rebuild takes, which requires a lot of patience which is why a lot of rebuilds fail because there is no patience.
 
Thee Idiotic Minivan K said:
Took the jazz 10 years to rebuild from the time the jazz moved to Utah and took 4 more years after drafting Stockton and Malone, and considering they were drafted 13th and 16th in back to back drafts that’s bad as lucky as it gets. If not for that, God knows how long they’d be rebuilding from that point it took about eight years to reach the finals.

The Spurs drafted Wemby two years ago almost and they’re about to have their second losing season adding the right players isn’t an exact science. There’s a lot of luck based in the whole equation of rebuilding and building a winner. It happens when it happens. It doesn’t mean it’s a crappy organization, crappy organizations, sure, but as long as an organization is moving forward the build goes well.

There’s 3 stages in a rebuild.

1. Tear down
2. Build up
3. Learn to win.

There’s no quantifying length of time that is considered for a good rebuild, depending on luck and other situations defines how long a rebuild takes, which requires a lot of patience which is why a lot of rebuilds fail because there is no patience.
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Twice the jazz the jazz had short rebuilds, once because they were impatient. They lost their stars and went out and signed two big money free agents and the other time they fell into Mitchell and Gobert but they didn’t allow time to build a complete team that could have great success in the playoffs. A proper rebuild takes as long as it takes. You must give ample time to build a complete team.
 
idiot said:
I'm becoming more and more convinced that @Handlogten's Heros is not who he claims he is .....

True story (that maybe I told before): when I first started noticing @Handlogten's Heros, I was such an idiot that thought he was perhaps David Locke. Took me a while to persuade myself that he wasn't.
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Who knows???
 
Thee Idiotic Minivan K said:
Took the jazz 10 years to rebuild from the time the jazz moved to Utah and took 4 more years after drafting Stockton and Malone, and considering they were drafted 13th and 16th in back to back drafts that’s bad as lucky as it gets. If not for that, God knows how long they’d be rebuilding from that point it took about eight years to reach the finals.

The Spurs drafted Wemby two years ago almost and they’re about to have their second losing season adding the right players isn’t an exact science. There’s a lot of luck based in the whole equation of rebuilding and building a winner. It happens when it happens. It doesn’t mean it’s a crappy organization, crappy organizations, sure, but as long as an organization is moving forward the build goes well.

There’s 3 stages in a rebuild.

1. Tear down
2. Build up
3. Learn to win.

There’s no quantifying length of time that is considered for a good rebuild, depending on luck and other situations defines how long a rebuild takes, which requires a lot of patience which is why a lot of rebuilds fail because there is no patience.
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This post contains no insults and is sentenced and constructed so well that I suspect they have replaced you with an AI.
 
HermanG said:
I'm confused. Where is the line in the water for some of our aggressive "anti-tankers"? Are rebuilding teams allowed to trade away players and be careful with key players health? Are tankers allowed to retain good players? What are the rules here?
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Tanking is trying lose as much as needed to secure a top pick. The Jazz are clearly tanking. They were tanking the last two seasons as well, but only from the trade deadline on.

If you're trying to get a top pick through losing, you're tanking. Naturally you can be good at it, bad at it or mediocre at it. You can also try and balance other goals at the same time - which might or might not hurt the tanking essence.

Some teams just happen to be absolutely brutally bad and have no hope of improving and end up tanking without much of a choice in the matter. Others actively choose to tank and make multiple decisions to achieve that.
 
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HermanG said:
Fish knew. He loves that.
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Incorrect. I never use talk to text. My wife does 100% of the time. She never actually uses her fingers to text anymore. I always use the swipe text method.
 
Thee Idiotic Minivan K said:
What in the world is swipe text? Is it easy?
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I think so but some people don't like it.
It works like this: if I want to type the word "random" then I put my thumb on the "r" and keep my thumb touching my phone as I move my thumb to the "a" and then move my thumb to the "n" and so on with my thumb constantly touching the phone screen. You "swipe" your finger/thumb around from letter to letter of each word always keeping contact with the screen until the word is finished. Then you lift your finger and put it on the first letter of the next word and do it again.
It has its issues but I like it better than normal texting.
 
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