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How the LDS Church can change their doctrine/policy on LGBT

NAOS said:
one can be an atheist but not an anti-theist. In other words, one can hold that there is no proof of the existence of God (the core tenet of atheism) but still wish it were true.
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That was my general tone, but I'm pretty sure I'm atheist at this point. Mormon Doctrine tells me I can not ask for a sign from God, however, so luckily for me I'm not going to be struck down.
 
franklin said:
That was my general tone, but I'm pretty sure I'm atheist at this point. Mormon Doctrine tells me I can not ask for a sign from God, however, so luckily for me I'm not going to be struck down.
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I was never taught this. I was taught that it is me speaking to my Father. That I could be as intimate and honest as I wanted to be, or not be as it may happen.

Interesting.
 
Stoked said:
I was never taught this. I was taught that it is me speaking to my Father. That I could be as intimate and honest as I wanted to be, or not be as it may happen.

Interesting.
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Try it then. Ask for a sign. I want to see if you die or not.
 
franklin said:
That was my general tone, but I'm pretty sure I'm atheist at this point. Mormon Doctrine tells me I can not ask for a sign from God, however, so luckily for me I'm not going to be struck down.
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were are you on theism at this point? theist or anti-theist? (or something else I can't think of...)
 
NAOS said:
Don't feel any pressure to clarify, but I'm curious why you're "definitely not anti-theist"
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I don't see the point anymore than I see the point of one Christian denomination attacking another. I also don't care to convert others away from their religion. I think they, in general, teach a decent moral value system.

I also find it tactless to attack something people hold sacred.
 
franklin said:
I don't see the point anymore than I see the point of one Christian denomination attacking another. I also don't care to convert others away from their religion. I think they, in general, teach a decent moral value system.

I also find it tactless to attack something people hold sacred.
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gotcha. Thanks.
 
franklin said:
Try it then. Ask for a sign. I want to see if you die or not.
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Just because I ask for something doesn't mean I will get it lol.

Maybe he will whack me in some really bizarre way. 1,000s of squirrels devour me or something.
 
franklin said:
I don't see the point anymore than I see the point of one Christian denomination attacking another. I also don't care to convert others away from their religion. I think they, in general, teach a decent moral value system.

I also find it tactless to attack something people hold sacred.
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Best post of the thread.
 
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