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No. I have said that "gay" is used as an indication of dislike or distatse for things that are not related to being homosexual, and the reason for this usage is the association of the word with homosexuals. That is why the usage is a slur.

Is it safe to assume that you are equally offended by terms such as "ghetto" and "redneck" as these would also be slurs against groups of people that society typically finds distasteful?
 
The most insultin thang I can think of to call someone, after "cheese-eater," is "city-slicker."

Just so disgustin, ya know?

After that, probly "Californian," or mebbe "French." Tough call there, but they're virtually identical in content, so it don't really matter which one ya pick.
 
Some City-Slicker insisted I come to his "wine and cheese tastin" party once. I didn't even know what that was. He said: Just bring your favorite wine, cheese, and crackers for everyone to sample, and you can sample theirs, see?

I said: I don' think so! Homey don't play dat. I don't never eat no cheese.

He kept on insistin, and I got to thinkin....all kinda wine... might be OK...so I finally said I would go. Big-*** mistake.

I brought some genuine imitation cheese (Cheez Whiz, large can with a full-throttle nozzle), a few jugs of Mad Dog, and plenty of saltine crackers.

I almost had to hurl chunk when I got there. Alla them candyass city-slickers, drinkin wine out of long-stemmed glasses with they pinkies stretched out, takin lil-*** nibbles offa Limberger cheese, talkin in pretentious tones about the opry they done seen last week, and all, ya know?

Then they acted like they was all too damn good to sample the fine stuff I done brung. Typical of your stuck-up city slicker, know what I'm sayin?

It was cool though, I guzzled it all down, and hogged it all up, all by my own damn self.
 
The "usage" of the word "gay" is a "slur" if used to express distaste, right?

I was quite a bit more specific than that. Your statement is too general.

I aint figured out yet zakly how that fits in with this here:

Perhaps if you would stop generalizing what I did say into something I did not say, and instead applied the limitations I spelled out, you would see why the two paragraphs are not in conflict.

Is it safe to assume that you are equally offended by terms such as "ghetto" and "redneck" as these would also be slurs against groups of people that society typically finds distasteful?

If you use "ghetto" to describe a neighborhood filled with a single ethnic group (e.g., the Hill was an Italian ghetto), it's not a slur. If you use it to disparage something that has nothing to do with such neighborhoods (e.g., I wish my kid wouldn't wear ghetto clothing), it can be and often is a slur. If you use "redneck" to describe a contruction worker whose spent the last week in the summer sun withnot sunscreen, it's not a slur. If you use it to describe the financial status of a person or the condition of their house, it typically would be a slur.
 
LOL @ ghetto

seems to me the more up-to-date term is "projects" at least around here

in terms of a fashion style, I think many would consider "looking ghetto" to be a compliment, or at least an appropriate description of a trend and not a slur at all
 
seems to me the more up-to-date term is "projects" at least around here

That's so 90's. "Public assisted housing" is the currently acceptable terminology. That being said, the phrase, "That's so public assisted housing" is a mouthful. Ghetto just flows off the tongue so much more smoothly.
 
...the two paragraphs are not in conflict.

They aint, eh?

On the one hand, you maintain that people should be banned from this board for sayin "that's gay" because

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The implication, at least to me, is that merely being gay is distasteful.

Next breath, this here:

Hopper said:
[Eric] do you consider yourself "tolerant" of the belief that homosexual practices are distasteful?

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Go figure, eh?

Mebbe you need to look at the defintion of "tolerant" again, eh?

Your position sumthin like this here, mebbe?

1. I will tolerate the view that murder is distasteful, sure, but

2. Anyone who suggests that the status of bein a murderer is distasteful should be banned.

That it?
 
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Originally Posted by Hopper

Hopper said:
I have no idea what Bum intended by this. According to this own explicit statements, he himself is gay (or bi-sexual).


How would that be relevant?

I done said I don't know if it is the least bit relevant. Bum's intention may have been to praise homosexuality, but if he used the word "gayward" to do it, it might not make the least bit of difference what his intentions were. Who knows? I guess you do, given your question.
 
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That's so 90's. "Public assisted housing" is the currently acceptable terminology. That being said, the phrase, "That's so public assisted housing" is a mouthful. Ghetto just flows off the tongue so much more smoothly.


Round these here parts, they just say "Cabrini-Green," eh, Marcus? Kinda long, but just too catchy to resist, I figure.

"Over the years, gang violence and neglect created terrible conditions for the residents, and the name "Cabrini–Green" became synonymous with the problems associated with public housing in the United States...Rat and cockroach infestations were commonplace, rotting garbage stacked up in clogged trash chutes (it once piled up to the 15th floor), and basic utilities (water, electricity, etc.) often malfunctioned and were left unrepaired. On the exterior, boarded-up windows, burned-out areas of the facade, and pavement instead of green space—all in the name of economizing on maintenance—created an atmosphere of neglect and decay. The high "open galleries" were enclosed with steel fencing along the entire height of the building to prevent residents from falling or being thrown off to their deaths (giving the visual appearance of a large prison tier, or animal cages...).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabrini–Green

My own damn self, I kinda miss the joint, ya know?

After a while, it got shortened to just "green," and now the phrase "that's Green" is often interpreted as an expression of distaste for the Irish by them what aint knowin nuthin.
 
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They aint, eh?

No, they are not. Selective quoting will not create a contradiction that does not exist.

On the one hand, you maintain that people should be banned from this board for sayin "that's gay" because

Since you didn't give the reason I objected to the phrase, your point is moot.

I done said I don't know if it is the least bit relevant.

Why would TroutBum's sexuality be even remotely relevant? And no, you said nothing about that.
 
Heh.

Since you didn't give the reason I objected to the phrase, your point is moot.

Yeah, I did. Even if I didn't, so what? "I won't tolerate X" is the point. "I won't tolerate X, because..." doesn't change the point. But, either way, I quoted your stated reason ("because").

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And no, you said nothing about that.

Yeah, I did. No wonder we can't understand each other. I say sumthin, you claim I never said it. Do you just respond wthout readin, that it?


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Why would TroutBum's sexuality be even remotely relevant?

Unless intended meaning were completely irrelevant and the very WORD, all by itself, was deemed an insult (which seems to be EXACTLY how some people think), why WOULDN'T it be relevant.

I have heard it claimed that is a "slur" to refer to blacks as "colored people." If such a claim is made, do you think it might be revelvant if the speaker were the head of the NAACP? I know you if say "colored people" is a slur, then you can't even begin to conceive that it could EVER NOT be a slur, but try hard, eh?

Champions of a group often want to adopt a "there aint no difference between" dogma with a devotion so pronounced that it just becomes plumb stupid, eh?

There aint NO difference between (insert your constrast here, men and women. blacks and whites, gays and straights, whatever), I tellya! None. Zilcho. Nada, fool.

Kinda amusin, actually.
 
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