I shouldn't be stoking old flames, but...

[fishonjazz]

Hayward is better than the other players in that table.

I think they are all pretty even.... though Hayward from last year is probably the worst of the bunch...... but the highest paid

 

[fishonjazz]

I completely disagree. Derozan is waaaaaay better IMO.

Hey prick, I read that gone girl book you recommended and commented about it in the jazzfanz book club thread

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

Amar'e was an all-star in all 4 years under his first contract extension with the Suns. The Suns averaged 54 wins per season, and reached the Western Conference finals in Stoudemire's last season with the team. Not a great example.

How about the current Amar'e? Is he worth what he's being paid? I don't think so.

 

[mhindy]

I completely disagree. Derozan is waaaaaay better IMO.

The question is whether Derozan can be anything more than an all-star first option on a middling team. He is nowhere near good enough to be the first option on a championship team and a lot of guys, especially those who aren't great shooters, can't really fit in without the high usage rate.

 

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I was pissed (still sorta am) about the Hayward contract. But I've (mostly) moved on... I'm getting excited about how he'll look in a system that, on paper, appears to be a much better fit.

Also, Derozan and Thompson are definitely better players at this point. Eric Gordon is too glass.

 

[oldtimer]

I think it can be fairly argued that all are better than Hayward. So what? The Jazz paid what we paid cant do nothing about it. Hopefully, a year from now everyone will agree that Hayward is better than all of them.

 

[Stifle Tower]

Guess we'll see how much of Hayward's slump was due to being misused by a bad coach in a bad system. Not a bargain of a contract, but it was a lose-lose either way. I GUARANTEE you had Lindsey offered Gordon a contract equal to Favors (or slightly more), he would have been castigated even more. It was ridiculous when some were estimating Gordon would get $8-$9M.

So Jazz either keep their player at an inflated price, or lose him for nothing. He's tradeable in 3 years if/when the Jazz need to free up money. Or he rebounds from his slump and is almost worth his contract. It's really not a big deal.

 

[cowhide]

Does it really matter? Gordon got his money now he has to earn it. The market was different when those other guys got paid. Look what Bledsoe got. He got overpaid too. I wasn't happy with the precedent that the Jazz set with overpaying Hayward. I hope it doesn't come back and bite them when they try to sign other players. I am expecting a better season from Gordon. I think the coaching change will help but I think the Jazz are overall better than last year. Time will tell if he actually earns it.

 

[Hotdog]

I was pissed (still sorta am) about the Hayward contract. But I've (mostly) moved on... I'm getting excited about how he'll look in a system that, on paper, appears to be a much better fit.

Also, Derozan and Thompson are definitely better players at this point. Eric Gordon is too glass.

Hey something positive to say.

What's going on? Did you find a girl?

 

[LogGrad98]

Guess we'll see how much of Hayward's slump was due to being misused by a bad coach in a bad system. Not a bargain of a contract, but it was a lose-lose either way. I GUARANTEE you had Lindsey offered Gordon a contract equal to Favors (or slightly more), he would have been castigated even more. It was ridiculous when some were estimating Gordon would get $8-$9M.

So Jazz either keep their player at an inflated price, or lose him for nothing. He's tradeable in 3 years if/when the Jazz need to free up money. Or he rebounds from his slump and is almost worth his contract. It's really not a big deal.

We might see nothing of the kind. Not many brand new coaches earn the HOF their first season. We really don't know what we have in QS. We can be hopeful but he may wilt under the heat worse than Corbin did.

 

[silesian]

Amare Stoudamire

funny

 

[blackham9258]

Remember it only takes one in free agency and unfortunately for us Charlotte was that one. Note that no other team was going to offer Hayward that and Charlotte offered Hayward $3-4m more than he would have gotten elsewhere. Just look at what they did w Marvin Williams 2/$14 was double what anyone else was going to pay.

The market just turned out that Charlotte needed a wing and Al Jefferson being there and vouching for Hayward helped cause this. Another thing was had the Lance Stephenson issue really purcolated sooner Charlotte could have made that happen sooner and avoided inflicting pain on us. Some players no matter how good they are just don't catch the right team with enough cap space who likes them at the right time.

No one else would have offered that contract to Gordon except Charlotte... It's too bad. A lot of why they did it was for Pr purposes too. They knew the jazz would match but they had to show their fans they were going for it oh well.

I just hope we lock up Burks for $8-$10M before he has a great year with tons of playing time and get a maxed too.