I Side With Take 2

[Gameface]

I think you are kidding yourself both in regard to how Trump could be defeated in a primary as well as what that would mean as far as a repudiation of Trumpism. Primaries are won by courting a parties base, and the current base of the GOP has absolutely no interest in a 'RINO' moderate--there's a reason men like Jeff Flake and Bob Corker are calling it quits. The other thing that electing a Republican does is empower the same congressional **** show we've been enduring for the last decade. Handing more power to Mitch McConnell sounds ****ing great.

The primary difference between Trump and so called mainstream republicanism is his willingness to say the 'quiet' part loud. Make no mistake the GOP is the party of Fox News, and that isn't going to change any time soon, certainly not in the next two years. And as long as those nutjobs are creating policy positions for the GOP they are going to be a destructive force in America, regardless of whether Trump is in the White House.

I'll read your entire post in a second.

I think the chances of Trump losing in the primary are 1,000,000,000:1

 

[Gameface]

I think you are kidding yourself both in regard to how Trump could be defeated in a primary as well as what that would mean as far as a repudiation of Trumpism. Primaries are won by courting a parties base, and the current base of the GOP has absolutely no interest in a 'RINO' moderate--there's a reason men like Jeff Flake and Bob Corker are calling it quits. The other thing that electing a Republican does is empower the same congressional **** show we've been enduring for the last decade. Handing more power to Mitch McConnell sounds ****ing great.

The primary difference between Trump and so called mainstream republicanism is his willingness to say the 'quiet' part loud. Make no mistake the GOP is the party of Fox News, and that isn't going to change any time soon, certainly not in the next two years. And as long as those nutjobs are creating policy positions for the GOP they are going to be a destructive force in America, regardless of whether Trump is in the White House.

I basically don't disagree with anything you say in this post other than assuming how optimistic I am that Trump could lose in the Primary (see post above). I'm not going to be voting Republican until the party has a reckoning. I don't think that will be anytime soon (2020 or midterms in 2022) but I think they are in for a huge wake-up call. Black people in particular and minorities in general haven't voted a lot, historically. Well, I can tell you, they are going to be motivated and once they see that they actually can make a difference it will motivate them to continue voting and create a culture where they are involved in our political system, both from an activist-voter position, but increasingly from the position of office holder. Same goes for the motivation of women and people in the LGBTQ community. 2020 is going to be something to behold. The Trump supporters are going to come out in force. We've seen some of that here, where otherwise or at least previously reasonable people who happen to be white male Christians are feeling like they are losing their privilege and are jumping aboard the Trump bandwagon for one glorious last stand. It makes me sick, but if we don't all get out and vote in the general election like our lives depend on it Trump might just get re-elected. But in many ways, for many groups, our lives do depend on it. The Trump voters are going to show up, they make up maybe 1/3 of the country. But they have historically been the people who vote. But the greater the turnout overall the less Trump has a chance to win.

 

[fishonjazz]

Still continues to amaze me that there are still so many people willing to support a candidate from the party that paved the way for and has enabled Trump since day one.

Americans are so ****ing stupid sometimes it hurts.

When I vote I look at candidates. People. Not parties.
I can't believe Americans would be so stupid as to blindly vote for a person based off what party they represent

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[Zombie]

When I vote I look at candidates. People. Not parties.
I can't believe Americans would be so stupid as to blindly vote for a person based off what party they represent

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The party a politician chooses to join tells you a lot about who they are and what they believe in. It would take willful blindness not to take that into consideration, especially considering what has happened to the GOP in the last few decades.