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I think the story of this team has to include a Rock Bottom

Was thinking about this thread the other day. I felt like we didn't find the floor last time. I hope they do this time. Dark moments let you find what you are made of. I still believe this team is highly capable, but its going to be quite the come to Jesus to turn this thing around. I think they are going to put it together yet, but it may be a minute.

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Jingled said:
I think we're officially at rock bottom.

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Locke kind of had me shook with the 5 out stuff he talked about. Our whole system might need an adjustment or Rudy might be able to be straight schemed out of games. The super weird thing is we haven't been able to get dunks on dunks on dunks when teams go with small ball or weak *** shooting 5s.

People talking about a zone, but if you think a man defense requires connectivity, movement, and communication... a zone in the NBA needs crazy amounts of connectivity to work well. You need all 5 guys to rebound... it helps if you have guys with length that are now roaming a bit... like if the 5 out play really is Rudy and our krypotonite we are just ****ed.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Locke kind of had me shook with the 5 out stuff he talked about. Our whole system might need an adjustment or Rudy might be able to be straight schemed out of games. The super weird thing is we haven't been able to get dunks on dunks on dunks when teams go with small ball or weak *** shooting 5s.

People talking about a zone, but if you think a man defense requires connectivity, movement, and communication... a zone in the NBA needs crazy amounts of connectivity to work well. You need all 5 guys to rebound... it helps if you have guys with length that are now roaming a bit... like if the 5 out play really is Rudy and our krypotonite we are just ****ed.
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To be honest I think we've kind of seen Rudy schemed out of some games in the playoffs the past few years, by both Houston and Golden State. I hate to say it but in the modern NBA I'm not sure a team who's best player is a 7'1 defensive center with a limited offensive game has a very high ceiling.
 
Jingled said:
To be honest I think we've kind of seen Rudy schemed out of games in the playoffs the past few years, by both Houston and Golden State. I hate to say it but in the modern NBA I'm not sure a team who's best player is a 7'1 defensive center with a limited offensive game has a very high ceiling.
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As a small market team, perhaps we should have supported this Gobzilla full tilt. We did it half asked though. We just couldn't commit.
 
sahlensguy said:
As a small market team, perhaps we should have supported this Gobzilla full tilt. We did it half asked though. We just couldn't commit.
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I mean, I think we tried the last couple of years. We surrounded Rudy with solid defenders at nearly every position and as a result had a top 2 defense the past two seasons. But then our problem was that the offense wasn't nearly good enough.
 
Jingled said:
To be honest I think we've kind of seen Rudy schemed out of some games in the playoffs the past few years, by both Houston and Golden State. I hate to say it but in the modern NBA I'm not sure a team who's best player is a 7'1 defensive center with a limited offensive game has a very high ceiling.
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I think the GS series he wasn't healthy and we were completely outmatched... that was a damn juggernaut.

I feel like he was okay in the Houston series... our whole team stopped shooting the ball... ive never seen anything like it. Houston is the elite 5 out team so it may still be an issue... its when Dario Saric is doing it to you and you aren't killing him on the other end that I get worried.
 
Jingled said:
I mean, I think we tried the last couple of years. We surrounded Rudy with solid defenders at nearly every position and as a result had a top 2 defense the past two seasons. But then our problem was that the offense wasn't nearly good enough.
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Those defenders all funnelled the offense into Rudy though. That's not helping him, that's letting Rudy do the work. We never got defenders to help him that he could share the court with. Outside of a young Exum that is. Or a one year Hill.
 
It honestly feels like none of these players care anymore. They all completed their goal and then quit.

Royce got paid and almost immediately quit. After he signed on the dotted line he immediately went to s***.

As soon as Rudy realized he was gonna be an all star he stopped playing defense.

As soon as Donovan realized he was gonna be an all star he started laying eggs.

Joe got paid in the summer and hasn't had the same intensity on the court this season.

They're all content.
 
SCS said:
It honestly feels like none of these players care anymore. They all completed their goal and then quit.

Royce got paid and almost immediately quit. After he signed on the dotted line he immediately went to s***.

As soon as Rudy realized he was gonna be an all star he stopped playing defense.

As soon as Donovan realized he was gonna be an all star he started laying eggs.

Joe got paid in the summer and hasn't had the same intensity on the court this season.

They're all content.
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A guy like Rudy doesn't quit because coach's pick him for the ASG. That's absurd. He quit because no one helps him and he is spent.
 
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