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I wish we had drafted him instead of Grayson Allen

Saint Cy of JFC said:
Grayson Allen has been alright. He's having a solid year 2
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solid on what exactly? defense or offense? Allen's been a huge negative on both ends for the second year in a row and he's already 24. not to mention the number of games he's missed due to injurry/physical conditions. time is not on his side. China is calling.
 
whatthe said:
I see some of Troy's qualities in Miye Oni - great passing instintcs minus the better handles. But I think Miye is a far superior athlete. I hope I am right.
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Lmao. Oni isn’t close to the player Brown is.
Catchall said:
Troy Brown went like 10 spots ahead of our pick. He wasn't attainable. I liked him. Cy liked him. Several people liked him.
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I thought he was drafted 18th, am I mistaken on that?
Saint Cy of JFC said:
It was pretty much just me
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Troy Brown was my guy, but Allen was who I wanted after brown.

People here seriously overrate Oni
 
Thee jazz fan said:
Lmao. Oni isn’t close to the player Brown is.

I thought he was drafted 18th, am I mistaken on that?

Troy Brown was my guy, but Allen was who I wanted after brown.
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Washington drafted Brown at #15. The Jazz were drafting at #21 (I thought we were more like 23). FWIW, I think Rayjon Tucker looks to be as good a prospect at Grayson Allen and Donte Divincenzo, at least in terms of athleticism and scoring.
 
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Reality gets fuzzy for me when I am on Jazzfanz. I always think we can move ten spots in the draft. make crazy trades and still have a couple first rounders each year.
 
SoUjazzfan said:
Memphis probably agrees with you.....
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quite the opposite, he's having a very solid year so far for them.

jom2003 said:
out of all those guys that got drafted after Allen, you wanna pick a guy that were drafted before him...?

i mean com'on man, we've got aaron holiday, anfernee simons, moritiz wagner, landry shamet, jalen brunson, devonte graham, mitchell robinson, bruce brown, and hamidou Diallo. all legit nba players who are more likely to stick around in the league for years than allen.
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allen has a good a chance of any (and more than some on that list) of sticking in the nba

jom2003 said:
solid on what exactly? defense or offense? Allen's been a huge negative on both ends for the second year in a row and he's already 24. not to mention the number of games he's missed due to injurry/physical conditions. time is not on his side. China is calling.
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now you're just saying sh*t to say it b/c you hate him. you trashed him all last season and even with him far removed from the jazz you stay on his nuts and keep his name in your mouth constantly. a huge negative on both ends? he's been solid on offense and much improved on defense for memphis. have you watched any of their games or taken a look at his numbers? he would've been the best guard off the bench for utah ahead of mudiay and X if he was still here. you hate him pure and simple and can't be objective when it comes to his game. the only thing hell be getting from china is nikes.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Grayson Allen has been alright. He's having a solid year 2
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absolutely. can't use logic with those here who hated him from the get go and are clearly biased against him. he's been trending up and been playing quite well for memphis. 23/24 is still so young and allen still has basically a rookie's nba experience given how little quin used him last year. he's going to be a solid pro.
 
jazzETX said:
quite the opposite, he's having a very solid year so far for them.



allen has a good a chance of any (and more than some on that list) of sticking in the nba



now you're just saying sh*t to say it b/c you hate him. you trashed him all last season and even with him far removed from the jazz you stay on his nuts and keep his name in your mouth constantly. a huge negative on both ends? he's been solid on offense and much improved on defense for memphis. have you watched any of their games or taken a look at his numbers? he would've been the best guard off the bench for utah ahead of mudiay and X if he was still here. you hate him pure and simple and can't be objective when it comes to his game. the only thing hell be getting from china is nikes.
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Solid on offense? You mean having a -0.9 Offensive BPM which ranks 8th on a team that sits at the bottom of the league? In fact all advance metrics have shown Allen as a negative on offense. His shooting efficiency went up sure but if you look at efficiency alone, Niang is better than both Bojan and DM.

And don't even bother making argument for his defense. It's not an argument you can win. Allen was one of the worse defenders in the league last season and still a huge liability on D this year and yes sir I've watched the Memphis play, more so than people here who supported the Conley trade.
 
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