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Tom Pitt
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A domestic forever war is exactly what this administration wants. And in their recruitment efforts, one focus is reminding recruits that this is a culture war, and they are needed to win that culture war.
This Will Happen Again
The conditions that claimed Renee Nicole Good’s life will claim the lives of others.www.theatlantic.com
On an unseasonably warm Wednesday in Minneapolis, an Immigration and Customs Enforcement agent shot a woman in the face. The many eyes of our everyday panopticon recorded the event from multiple angles. Renee Nicole Good, a 37-year-old mom of three, had stopped her maroon SUV on a snowy street crawling with ICE officials. According to eyewitness reports, multiple men in masks shouted conflicting orders at her: At least one apparently demanded that she exit her vehicle and tried to open her door; another told her to drive away. Good seems to have moved slowly as she tried to maneuver around the agents surrounding her car. After appearing to first wave for someone to move, she reversed slightly and turned away from the agents to continue down the street. An ICE agent who appears to have been knocked back by her front bumper responded by shooting into her vehicle, and shot again as the SUV, suddenly without a conscious driver, careered into a parked car ahead.
Everyone on the scene had witnessed the crossing of a crucial line in Donald Trump’s mass-deportation project: ICE had just killed an American citizen on American soil.
The administration has since declared that the agent “is protected by absolute immunity,” whatever that means, a signal of unconditional support for an agency bloated with thousands of new, heavily armed, and minimally trained recruits, deployed around the country to help achieve Trump’s goal of deporting 1 million immigrants a year. Events such as Good’s death set the stage for yet more lethal confrontations, which the administration can be trusted to defend with the same specious pretext. What is now overt, in a way that it hadn’t been Wednesday morning, is that these agents are at war with the public, and have been for some time.
In ICE’s Own Words, It’s “Wartime” in America
ICE just launched a “wartime recruitment” campaign and seeks agents who want to “defend” their “culture.” There will be more Renee Goods.newrepublic.com
On January 3, four days before the horrific killing of Renee Nicole Good, the Department of Homeland Security put out a press release. The headline bragged: “ICE Announces Historic 120% Manpower Increase, Thanks to Recruitment Campaign That Brought in 12,000 Officers and Agents.”
The statement went on to boast (bolded language in the original): “After receiving more than 220,000 applications to join ICE from patriotic Americans, ICE blew past its original hiring target of 10,000 new officers and agents within a year. In fact, we have more than doubled our officers and agents from 10,000 to 22,000. With these new patriots on the team, we will be able to accomplish what many say was impossible and fulfill President Trump’s promise to make America safe again.”
On January 3, four days before the horrific killing of Renee Nicole Good, the Department of Homeland Security put out a press release. The headline bragged: “ICE Announces Historic 120% Manpower Increase, Thanks to Recruitment Campaign That Brought in 12,000 Officers and Agents.”
The statement went on to boast (bolded language in the original): “After receiving more than 220,000 applications to join ICE from patriotic Americans, ICE blew past its original hiring target of 10,000 new officers and agents within a year. In fact, we have more than doubled our officers and agents from 10,000 to 22,000. With these new patriots on the team, we will be able to accomplish what many say was impossible and fulfill President Trump’s promise to make America safe again.”
ICE has hired 12,000 people in six months, recruiting specifically for people with an enthusiasm for guns and the military. The Trump administration wants to force showdowns that lead inevitably to what happened in Minneapolis Wednesday.
Take a look at the recruitment social media post that DHS placed on X last August: “Serve your country! Defend your culture! No undergraduate degree required!”
Let’s break that down. “Serve your country.” OK, nothing objectionable about that. But then we take a very Trumpian-Millerian turn: “Defend your culture.” Who is that aimed at? What set of emotional reactions is that command supposed to fire, and in whom? What “culture,” precisely, is it referring to? And finally, the reassurance that the job is open to practically anyone.
Well, anyone of a certain mindset, that is. On New Year’s Eve, ICE announced that it was initiating a new $100 million recruitment campaign that it referred to as a “wartime recruitment” strategy. The campaign, as The Washington Postput it, will target people “who have attended UFC fights, listened to patriotic podcasts, or shown an interest in guns and tactical gear.”
Any organization that goes from 10,000 to 22,000 in six months has hired some very unqualified people. If that organization is, say, the Candy Stripers, that might not be much of an issue. But if the organization is one that gives its employees badges and masks and riot gear and SIG Sauer P320 semiautomatic pistols (or maybe a Glock 19, to which the agency began transitioning last year), you’ve got a problem.
View: https://x.com/DHSgov/status/1952718231455592667
Defend your culture can be seen as a reminder that this is a war against Americans that disagree with Trump’s agenda. Making them un-American. Not good! Not good at all!
Trump has given ICE a license to kill. Here's how we respond.
The White House stands by ICE's apparent execution of an unarmed U.S. citizen. This moment changes everything.www.defiance.news
The Trump administration’s first response to the fatal ICE shooting in Minnesota yesterday was not sorrow, caution, or even uncertainty. It was another lie.
Before the facts were known — before first-person footage emerged — Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem labeled the incident a “domestic terrorist attack.” That claim raced through right-wing media, instantly justifying lethal force and smearing the victim.
Then the video came out. And the lie collapsed.
I’ve seen terrorist attacks. Hell, I’ve responded to dozens of them. The footage doesn’t show anything remotely close to a “terrorist attack” or even an imminent threat, nor does it show an officer clearly acting in self-defense. What it shows is something far more disturbing: armed federal officers escalating a routine encounter into a fatal shooting. Then within hours, they hid behind an obvious lie.
This wasn’t a “one-off” or fog-of-war accident. Under Donald Trump, federal law enforcement — particularly ICE, an agency I used to help him oversee — has been conditioned to shoot first and explain later. The message from the top has been unmistakable. Agents know they will be protected, no matter what they do.
In July, for instance, Trump melted down after protesters vandalized “brand new vehicles” that he said his administration had given ICE, showing “total disrespect for LAW AND ORDER.” In response, he directed the Secretary of Homeland Security to give “Total Authorization” to use “whatever means necessary” against such protester “THUGS.”
This is what a license to kill looks like. And it’s why the responsibility for yesterday’s murder in Minneapolis ultimately rests at the president’s feet.
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Reminding gun loving men that this is a war against internal enemies is as irresponsible as it gets. Don’t think every such recruit is feeling the hate? Thinking about all those “radical left lunatics”? ICE is recruiting based off an assumption: it’s not just undocumented human beings, it’s our internal enemies, our fellow Americans that must be controlled. All gun loving patriots welcome!
U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials are planning to spend $100 million over a one-year period to recruit gun rights supporters and military enthusiasts through online influencers and a geo-targeted advertising campaign, part of what the agency called a “wartime recruitment” strategy it said was critical to hiring thousands of new deportation officers nationwide, according to an internal document reviewed by The Washington Post.
The spending would help President Donald Trump’s mass-deportation agenda dominate media networks and recruitment channels, including through ads targeting people who have attended UFC fights, listened to patriotic podcasts, or shown an interest in guns and tactical gear, according to a 30-page document distributed among officials this summer detailing ICE’s “surge hiring marketing strategy.”
It’s unclear how much of the spending and strategy have been carried out. But the plans outlined in the document have coincided with a rush of recruitment ads online seeking Americans who will “answer the call to serve.”
The rapid-recruitment approach is unlike anything ICE has ever pursued, said Sarah Saldaña, a director of ICE during the Obama administration, who recalled the agency filling its open positions through local police departments and sheriff’s offices with appeals to officers’ interests in federal public-safety work.
She said she worries that the speed with which ICE is racing to bring on new hires — coupled with the ad campaign’s framing of the jobs as part of a war — will raise the risk that the agency could attract untrained recruits eager for all-out combat.
The appeal to law enforcement should not be “the quicker we get out there and run over people, the better off this country will be,” she said. “That mentality you’re fostering tends to inculcate in people a certain aggressiveness that may not be necessary in 85 percent of what you do.”
The Atlantic and the New Republic are too biased. The writings of ideologues. Too much agenda to where they muddy the waters and make it more difficult for the masses or well meaning people who are seeking the truth. Trump may have authoritarian tendencies but he's not Hitler. And is a bit of a counter force to the authoritarianism of neoliberalism
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Tom Pitt
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I disagree. I just think as Victor Frankel said, there are two races but only these 2, the race of the decent man and the race of the indecent man. And there is darkness in all of us and there is varying degrees of decency whether you are on the right or the left. There are vile people on the left but there are vile people on the right. There are good people on the left but there are good people on the right
we have world views on what we think the world should be like. And the ways to get there. But the mainstream left in America has drastically moved the goal posts even from 15 years ago. And that isn't talked about enough as part of the impetus of two Donald Trump presidential wins.
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Has he said he is planning to squash protests? There is a difference between peacefully protesting and obstructing federal agents from enforcing existing federal law no?
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Well I mean, he wanted to shoot protesters in the legs, so ya.
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He’s threatening the Insurrection Act against protestors, so, yes, absolutely he seems to be planning just that. IMO, he is hoping for this. A forever domestic war serves the interests of an authoritarian after all. And his ICE goons are out of control, and poorly trained. He has to know that ICE are untrained goon squads, and behaving the way they behave, will attract concerned citizens who are absolutely appalled at seeing people dragged from cars, thrown on the ground, seeing teenage citizens have the crap beaten out of them, and dumped off in parking lots far from where they were “abducted”(might as well call it what it is).
Does anyone think, under the circumstances that we see playing out on American streets, including killing citizens, that such scenes are not going to attract crowds of concerned citizens? Instead, Noem and others are identifying such concerned citizens as the enemy!!
To Trump, Vance, and Noem, concerned citizens, including peaceful demonstrators, are the enemies of our country. So yeah, such an attitude is not calculated to encourage discourse now, is it? So yes, if we see the insurrection Act, of course the squashing of protests will accelerate, and that squashing will be done by the US military.
Yep. The day he stood in front of a D.C. church, holding a bible upside down. That morning, he asked if protestors could be shot in the legs.
It happened on the day he wanted to pose in front of St.John’s Church. He asked if they could just shoot the protestors in the legs.
Faith leaders at St. John's Church in DC are 'outraged' at Trump's photo op with bible in front of church
"Hands that hold the Bible will never measure hearts that hold the Bible," said one of the church officials in response to Trump's visit on Monday.
www.wusa9.com
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I recognize the bias of The New Republic, it’s easily recognizable, but will certainly use them if they are accurate in what they are presenting, or arguing.
As for The Atlantic, I could not disagree more with you. If I want the most in depth, most informative, I’m turning to The Atlantic. They do not muddy waters, or make it more difficult to recognize the truth. They do a much better job than most. The Atlantic is the best. I prefer it over both The NY Times and Washington Post. Smart people prefer The Atlantic, lol…
Nobody clarifies issues like The Atlantic.
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What To Know About Jonathan Ross’ Controversial GoFundMe
A GoFundMe page for the ICE agent that killed Renee Good is in hot water after it was promoted by billionaire Bill Ackman.
www.forbes.com
The crowdsourcing website GoFundMe is facing increasing calls to remove a page raising money to support the immigration officer accused of killing protestor Renee Good in Minneapolis last week after a donation from outspoken billionaire Bill Ackman boosted the fund’s visibility and sent donations soaring.
The creator, identified on the page as Clyde Emmons, calls Good a "domestic terrorist" and claims Ross was "1000 percent justified in the shooting.”
On Monday, Ackman made a $10,000 donation to the page and shared the link to his 1.9 million followers on X, which sent contributions soaring and the amount raised on the page almost doubling from Monday to Tuesday.
Now, critics are calling for GoFundMe to delete the page and saying it’s a direct violation of the company’s terms of service, which prohibit raising any money for the defense of someone accused of a violent crime, including murder.
As of Wednesday, GoFundMe said a now-closed fundraiser to support the Good family that raised $1.5 million before it was shut down was the only “verified” fundraiser related to the Minneapolis shooting, meaning the money raised for Ross remains in limbo and can still be sent back to donors if the company shuts down the fundraiser.
KEY BACKGROUND
Ross was caught on camera shooting and killing Minneapolis resident Renee Good, who was protesting ICE agents in her neighborhood from inside her car. Her wife, Becca, said the couple had "stopped to support our neighbors" after an ICE enforcement operation. Video shows Ross standing near the front of Good’s car when it starts to move forward. Good had turned her wheels away from Ross before easing off the brakes, but did brush him with her car as she moved slowly forward. Ross was able to stay on his feet and fired several shots into the car, killing Good. The latest video also captures someone off camera calling Good a “f—ing bitch” immediately after the shooting. When asked by CNN if it was Ross who said the slur, Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem told CNN, “It could be.” DHS claims Good “weaponized her vehicle, attempting to run over our law enforcement officers in an attempt to kill them” despite the video showing otherwise. The Trump administration has claimed the shooting was in self defense and the president vowed “RECKONING & RETRIBUTION” in Minnesota on Tuesday. Minnesota has sued the Trump administration to block the deployment of immigration officers. This week, leaders in the Department of Justice's Civil Rights Division resigned their jobs in protest of the division’s non-involvement in Good’s death, and at least six federal prosecutors with Minnesota’s U.S. attorney’s office have resigned after the Justice Department directed them to investigate Renee Good’s widow.
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I agree with most of this. I do think the goalposts have been moved, but moved from what to where? I mean, I think they went quite overboard with the way schools deal with transgender individuals, for example. But a lot of my right-leaning friends think that the very existence of trans individuals is moving the goal posts, not just the means of trying to integrate them into our society. You know, trans people exist, either way, it just depends on how you want to acknowledge them, or choose to fully not acknowledge them, or whatever. So the move has been from lesser acceptance to greater acceptance, which in my world view at least is a positive thing. The world is a better place when people are more accepting of each other's difference than less accepting, wouldn't you agree? Now we can debate the methods to advance that acceptance and that is where, I believe, things like schools keeping gender identity a secret from parents and encouraging kids to explore their gender identify (both of which were heavily documented in multiple news articles) is swinging the pendulum too far. But the real debate comes in the form of people like my sisters-in-law. They are coming this weekend to visit my wife, her sisters. They are died in the wool hardcore Trump supporters and deeply self-avowed "true christians" and they refuse to stay at our house, where we have ample room and my wife would be more at home considering she is recovering from serious surgery, all because our daughter is renting our basement and living with her trans partner. They said, quote "we will not stay in a house that contains such vile evil". So the existence of this person is a vile evil? Do you think these 2 women are isolated in this belief? If so I have some beach front property in Montana I would like to sell you, and you are being heavily disingenuous.
So which came first, the chicken or the egg. Or the "evil lives here" drive to suppress people who actually exist, or the moving of the goal posts way too far to the left all at once? I imagine they developed side by side.
But also, I have posted on here, at least 3 times, the article by Bourdain expressing his views about how the left elitists pushed the right regular folks too far and they pushed back, setting up the storm we have now. I believe that happened. Was is the first salvo? Again, chicken and egg. Left and Right have been at each other's throats for literal centuries at this point, where do you think the terms even come from? Why "left" and "right"? Google it.
So who started it and when? I guess everyone has to decide that for themselves.
But the question we have to answer is, how do we stop it and work for the common good more than for the power of the party? Or does no one care about that any more?
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Renee Good sustained at least 3 gunshot wounds in ICE shooting in Minneapolis, fire department report shows
The new details on Renee Good's death come after a week of protests in Minnesota that prompted President Trump to threaten to use the Insurrection Act.
www.cbsnews.com
Renee Good, who died last week after she was shot by an ICE agent in Minneapolis, sustained at least three gunshot wounds and a possible fourth, according to a Minneapolis Fire Department report obtained by CBS News Minnesota.
The incident report shows that paramedics arrived five minutes after Good was shot in her SUV following the encounter with ICE agents. Medics found the 37-year-old unresponsive with an irregular pulse and attempted life-saving efforts on the scene and in the ambulance to the hospital, where she was pronounced dead.
Responders found two apparent gunshot wounds to her chest, one to her left forearm, and "a possible gunshot wound with protruding tissue on the left side of the patient's head," the report says.
The new details come after a week of protests in Minnesota that prompted President Trump to threaten to use the Insurrection Act to send the U.S. military into the Twin Cities.
