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If Hayward left, or were traded.

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Exactly. I'm an advocate of trading Hayward, but not because I think he's an average player. He's very good. Maybe even an all-star if the Jazz were in the top-5 in the WC. The problem is that Utah can't pay everyone. A new cap of $100M sounds like a lot. But consider Favors and Hayward will both be eligible for 30% contracts and Gobert 25%. Let's even assume Utah gets a bit of a discount on Favors and even Hayward (although I think Gordon is going to want the max). Let's say those three take $25M each. That's still $75M. Trade Burks once Hood and Exum come up for raises. What do they get, $15-$20M each? So now the Jazz are at $110-$115M for just 5 players. Cut everyone else and go with rookies/Dleaguers at $525K each (I know it's somewhere around that range for rookies). So add at least $4.2M in payroll to get to 13 players. And obviously, I'm not counting guys like Lyles, Neto, Withey or anyone picked in the 1st round with a salary above rookie minimum,. Jazz are looking at $120M payroll (at a MINIMUM!). That's luxury tax territory for a team that would have NO ONE beyond the starting five outside of DLeaguers and 2nd rounders.

The logical choice for a trade is Hayward. He'll demand the most money and he'll be giving Utah the least bang for the buck. SF should also be the easiest position to fill, unlike PG or a dominant big. He'd also net Utah very good assets. Perhaps not what DWill got us, but every year there should be good shooters in the draft, even if was somewhere in the 10-15 range. Also, Jazz could take that $25-$30M and use it to go after another wing in free agency (or keep Burks if they choose) AND still have other picks/players acquired in a trade. If Dante develops a shot, you could even slide him over to the 2 and look at bringing in a stud PG with Hood at the 3.

Trading your best player so you can afford a 5 PER player (Exum) who *might* be average some day is asinine. While I like Hood, he is still a ways away from being able to carry an offense like Hayward, and is a far worse defender. Hayward is a top 30 player in the NBA.
 
Hayward's game will age nicely. I think that's fairly obvious.

Yup. And he keeps improving.

Let's not taste the closest thing we have to a team America Olympian, unless it brings us a better player.
 
Trading your best player so you can afford a 5 PER player (Exum) who *might* be average some day is asinine. While I like Hood, he is still a ways away from being able to carry an offense like Hayward, and is a far worse defender. Hayward is a top 30 player in the NBA.

One time, when I was 19-20, I had this friend that I was crazy about and when her relationship with her boyfriend seemed on the rocks, I broke up with my then-girlfriend so I could be single for when my friend was single. I don't think I have to tell anyone how that turned out. When I heard all these "trade-Gordon-to-get-or-keep-HOF-level-player," it's the first thing I think of.
 
One time, when I was 19-20, I had this friend that I was crazy about and when her relationship with her boyfriend seemed on the rocks, I broke up with my then-girlfriend so I could be single for when my friend was single. I don't think I have to tell anyone how that turned out. When I heard all these "trade-Gordon-to-get-or-keep-HOF-level-player," it's the first thing I think of.

^dude is crushin on Hayseed^
 
Trading your best player so you can afford a 5 PER player (Exum) who *might* be average some day is asinine. While I like Hood, he is still a ways away from being able to carry an offense like Hayward, and is a far worse defender. Hayward is a top 30 player in the NBA.

Top 30 might be a reach buthe is dif a top 50 player in the league. He has shown you what he can do be the leading man of a team. He can lead you right into the lottery.. He needs to be a compliment player on a winning team. Him as the center piece is never going to get it done, This he has proven.
 
We trade Hayward for a stop gap PG we are screwed. The only way we trade Hayward is if we get something better in return and it's not going to happen.

Still unsure of why people are so adamant about trading our best piece, for a lower caliber player. Fans just get bored I guess?!
 
We trade Hayward for a stop gap PG we are screwed. The only way we trade Hayward is if we get something better in return and it's not going to happen.

Still unsure of why people are so adamant about trading our best piece, for a lower caliber player. Fans just get bored I guess?!

No one ever suggested trading Hayward for crap. The idea is to get a top-5 pick and other assets for him. That way you replace his upcoming $30M/per salary (IF he even WANTS to stay) with a player who has the potential to be an all-star. Given unlimited money, yes, I say keep Hayward, Favors, Gobert, Hood and Exum as the starting 5 and have Burks, Lyles and another shooter off the bench, along with an upgrade over Burke as the backup PG. But the money is simply not going to be there. Hayward has said (as recently as after the Bulls game), that he considers himself to be an elite player. To me that says he'll want the max ($30M/per). Is he in the class of Curry, LBJ, etc.? Or is there better value to be had keeping ALL or MOST of the group I listed above (I think Burks is replaceable) and adding a top-5 prospect and maybe a good FA for HALF of what Hayward will cost?

Teams have to make tough choices. A big-3 of Hayward, Favors and Gobert isn't going to bring a championship. Of those three, Hayward will be the most expensive and is at a position where there are/will be very good replacements available. No, none as good as Gordon, But to keep Hayward means a couple of other players will need to be traded. Or Favors.
 
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