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If Lottery Rigging Exist, Aren't the Jazz Safe?

Yes lol, there is an ocean of difference between a rogue referee influencing games he’s gambling on and the league rigging their supposedly impartial draft lottery as a standard practice.
IF you believe the ref was truly rogue I guess that would be the case, but if it's deeper than that I think it would be much much more of an issue.
 
IF you believe the ref was truly rogue I guess that would be the case, but if it's deeper than that I think it would be much much more of an issue.
Well, that’s what we have evidence for and at the end of the day that’s what the scandal amounted to. Even if the rot was actually deeper than that, the league was able to sweep it under the rug by pinning it on Donaghy. I don’t think they could run that same playbook on a lottery rigging scandal that stretches back for decades.
 
Well, that’s what we have evidence for and at the end of the day that’s what the scandal amounted to. Even if the rot was actually deeper than that, the league was able to sweep it under the rug by pinning it on Donaghy. I don’t think they could run that same playbook on a lottery rigging scandal that stretches back for decades.
It was certainly deeper than that. The one bad apple theory hardly applies to anything organizationally.
 
It was certainly deeper than that. The one bad apple theory hardly applies to anything organizationally.
I guess it depends on what you mean by "deeper than that." Donaghy was probably not the only referee in the history of the NBA to bet on games, and the league obviously bears some blame, organizationally speaking, for allowing it to go on as long as it did. On the other hand, I'm not convinced by the theory that the NBA rigged the 2002 WCF, for example. That's an extraordinary claim that requires extraordinary evidence, which is lacking.
 
Id also like to make myself even more of a villain by pointing out that the mindset that rich people gather to decide the faith of the world is the most peasant mindset ever.

I dont like playing couch psychology games, but my experience is that most rich people are very self-reliant and dont actually bond with each other, especially with those who are richer than they are. They form marriages of convenience but are constantly worried about getting backstabbed because most of them share a "dog eat dog" mindset which helped them build their wealth in the first place. And the minority of them who arent playing hard ball by default are equally or even more worried the others are.

There are also antitrust and cartel laws which would probably send some of these guys from riches to jail if a years long rigging scandal would ever get exposed.
 
Id also like to make myself even more of a villain by pointing out that the mindset that rich people gather to decide the faith of the world is the most peasant mindset ever.

I dont like playing couch psychology games, but my experience is that most rich people are very self-reliant and dont actually bond with each other, especially with those who are richer than they are. They form marriages of convenience but are constantly worried about getting backstabbed because most of them share a "dog eat dog" mindset which helped them build their wealth in the first place. And the minority of them who arent playing hard ball by default are equally or even more worried the others are.

There are also antitrust and cartel laws which would probably send some of these guys from riches to jail if a years long rigging scandal would ever get exposed.

Plus – it seems the conspiracy theorists in this thread are treating "NBA owners" as some kind of a tight, shadowy cabal of 30 rich persons that can make decisions and keep secrets.

However, there's an absolute **** ton of minority owners too. Are they also "in on it"? I mean shares of teams are constantly changing hands, people are coming in and getting out.

You really think any secret would be safe in that kind of environment?
 
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Plus – it seems the conspiracy theorists in this thread are treating "NBA owners" as some kind of a tight, shadowy cabal of 30 rich persons that can make decisions and keep secrets.

However, there's an absolute **** ton of minority owners too. Are they also "in on it"? I mean shares of teams are constantly changing hands, people are coming in and getting out.

You really think any secret would be safe in that kind of environment?

The owners and minority owners wouldn't be involved. They wouldn't be "in on it." A relative handful of people in the league front office can do what they decide they need to do to keep the game successful, keep their franchises solvent and generate revenue for everyone. Everyone gets paid regardless of whether any particular team wins or loses games.
 
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