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'IF' this is Hayward's last game on Monday...

Hayward is NOT leaving.

I can't wait for him to re-sign in July and put all of this internet speculation to it's death.

It's quite simple. He has a superstar next to him in Gobert. He has a top coach. He has a young team around him that is already a 51 win team and a top defense and can only improve. The Jazz have stockpiled picks and kept cap space and can build a championship level team around he and Gobert. And finally, he can make more money with the Jazz than anywhere else. What team provides him better oppurtunities going forward? Moreover I truly believe he and his wife enjoy it here in Utah. I can't see him leaving.
 
I agree. Unless he gets an offer he can't refuse, no reason for him leave. This is his team and I would think he'd want to see where he can take it. Remember, the reason Durant left OKC was because of Westbrook; Hayward has great chemistry with everyone here.

What's an example of an offer he can't refuse? He'll have a max offer from anywhere, and the mega max from us. We can offer him more than anyone else with more years.

Do you mean like if the Warriors or Cavs cleared enough space to offer him the max?
 
What's an example of an offer he can't refuse? He'll have a max offer from anywhere, and the mega max from us. We can offer him more than anyone else with more years.

Do you mean like if the Warriors or Cavs cleared enough space to offer him the max?
I agree with your point, but what about endorsements, billboards, stardom? Utah is not the place even though I love SLC as a place to live and grow a family. Does Hayward want a safe haven, or does he want recognition?

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We'll survive. I believe our best assets right now is the Dennis Lindsey & Quin Snyder duo. Heck we won 51 games when half the team is injured at one time or another.


They'll make it work and we'll survive.
 
There is zero chance of him leaving. He is not leaving a 51 win second round team where he has played his whole career especially with the Jazz on the upward trajectory. Next year the Jazz could be the 2nd best team in the West. It will be extremely difficult to get over the Warriors hump, but welcome to the NBA. Lebron is on his way to going to 7 straight Finals and if the Warriors stay together they probably go to 7 in a row too before it is all over.

Why move cross country and lose to Lebron each year when he can stay where he has built something and lose to the Warriors each year?
 
I think there is a chance of him leaving. I wouldn't bet on it, but here is a plausible scenario.

The Jazz can't get Hill to resign. He gets huge money elsewhere. We go back to Shelvin Mack as our starting PG(ugh). I don't think his ties to Brad Stevens is as big as deal as everyone makes it out to be, but if the Jazz lose pieces in free agency I think he ponders leaving for a team like Boston. Without Hill we won't do better and aren't any closer to a championship. He doesn't have to be the main guy in Boston(Thomas is). With the pieces Boston has, I think they are closer to contenders then the Jazz.

That's a pessimistic look, but I don't want it to be a complete shock to me if he leaves.
 
I think there is a chance of him leaving. I wouldn't bet on it, but here is a plausible scenario.

The Jazz can't get Hill to resign. He gets huge money elsewhere. We go back to Shelvin Mack as our starting PG(ugh). I don't think his ties to Brad Stevens is as big as deal as everyone makes it out to be, but if the Jazz lose pieces in free agency I think he ponders leaving for a team like Boston. Without Hill we won't do better and aren't any closer to a championship. He doesn't have to be the main guy in Boston(Thomas is). With the pieces Boston has, I think they are closer to contenders then the Jazz.

That's a pessimistic look, but I don't want it to be a complete shock to me if he leaves.

No scenarios about him leaving make any sense whatsoever from a basketball or financial standpoint. The only thing i could understand is if he just wants to live in a particular city. I'm not worries about him leaving at all.
 
Don't know what you guy's are smoking that say there's zero chance of him leaving. There is a very real chance that he does.
Pull your head out of the sand.
 
No scenarios about him leaving make any sense whatsoever from a basketball or financial standpoint. The only thing i could understand is if he just wants to live in a particular city. I'm not worries about him leaving at all.

Outside of going to Boston, I think this is correct. To be completely honest, I can see Hayward really excelling in Boston's offense. I watched a lot of Celtics games this year, and I love what they run. Closest thing to classic Jazz offense in today's NBA. They do run of the same horns sets the Jazz do, but with a few wrinkles. Not to mention, they take advantage of fast break opportunities. They also run the same top pick and roll we do, but they also run the good ol' flex and UCLA, which opens up a ton of opportunities for the small forward. I could see his assist numbers rising too.

I also like Steven's offensive sets. They way he doubles a good post defender and hedges the pick and roll is textbook. I feel like the Jazz have much better talent, but Stevens does a better job with what he has.

Not to mention that the East makes a deep playoff run more feasible.
 
If Hayward leaves the Jazz will he fine. We have players on this team that have the same ceiling as him. It is the Millsap/Boozer situation. Boozer was overrated for what he gave us. Millsap will have the better career.

You can always watch him in Boston if he is your favorite player. Hope he does go to prove that we have overvalued him.

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Outside of going to Boston, I think this is correct. To be completely honest, I can see Hayward really excelling in Boston's offense. I watched a lot of Celtics games this year, and I love what they run. Closest thing to classic Jazz offense in today's NBA. They do run of the same horns sets the Jazz do, but with a few wrinkles. Not to mention, they take advantage of fast break opportunities. They also run the same top pick and roll we do, but they also run the good ol' flex and UCLA, which opens up a ton of opportunities for the small forward. I could see his assist numbers rising too.

I also like Steven's offensive sets. They way he doubles a good post defender and hedges the pick and roll is textbook. I feel like the Jazz have much better talent, but Stevens does a better job with what he has.

Not to mention that the East makes a deep playoff run more feasible.

this is a hard thing to agree with, but I do.
 
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