I'm no longer a Snyder fan.

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  1. outerspacefan

    outerspacefan Well-Known Member

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    IMHO the glaring problems of the Jazz are at the top he roster. And no, I do not think Conley is the problem, at least not basketbal wise...
    The supporting cast is one big away to be ready to fight for it all. But you will go only as high as Gobert and Mitchell takes you. They've got to be great... are they that great?
     
  2. LoPo

    LoPo Well-Known Member

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    I really like Gobert, but I want to win more. I was so disappointed by the Boozer/Deron/Okur/AK years because we never made that extra step. I was disappointed in the Stockton/Malone years because I thought through more aggressive moves we could have supported those guys better. I just get this feeling that we will end up with the same level of disappointment with the current roster.

    I'm a firm believer that giving Gobert a max contract in 2021 kills any chance of title contention by this roster.
     
  3. Hekate

    Hekate Well-Known Member

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    So did Quin lost this team? You are on a tangent.
     
  4. themanknownassting

    themanknownassting Well-Known Member

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    Yea I agree if we max him it will kill our chances. And to be honest, I would rather win more. Just sucks cause he's one of my favs.
     

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  5. David Ginola 14

    David Ginola 14 Well-Known Member

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    I agree...
     
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  6. UtahJazz32

    UtahJazz32 Well-Known Member

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    He lost the ability to motivate them yes.
     
  7. Jazzmix

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    I don't think it's something you can blame Snyder for. How can you use Rudy differently on offense? He has troubles with catching the ball or punishing smaller players in the post. The only solution would be to pair him with someone like Harden or Doncic. And on defense he is doing great job totally by himself this year. He cannot be in three places at the same time, I don't see how you could change using him on that end.
     
  8. UtahJazz32

    UtahJazz32 Well-Known Member

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    Rudy is offensively challenged outside of a 1 foot range of the basket, unfortunately
     
  9. Jazzmix

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    Yes, but that's not on Quin. Gobert is still exceptional player anyway. I just think that we shouldn't question Rudy. Our ceiling is determined by Donovan's developement. That's much more concerning issue to me.
     
  10. Hekate

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    To the question "Any examples?" again. Has the team voiced anything about Conley or has shown any frustration about him on the court? Did they have any needling words about Quin or practice hours?

    And if the players aren't open to motivation, or are prone to getting comfortable, is it really Quin's fault?
     
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  11. UtahJazz32

    UtahJazz32 Well-Known Member

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    The jazz are pretty hush hush about these things. Honestly I don't think anyone is pleased with Conley's production. you can take the defensive stance for Quin, the team and Conley but most on here share a similar view as myself
     
  12. JimLes

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    It's not about fault here. It's easier to fire a coach then to fire the team. If someone else can get these guys performing(and I think we can all agree they're underperforming) then you get that someone else.
     
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  13. UtahJazz32

    UtahJazz32 Well-Known Member

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    exactly, thank you
     
  14. Beer

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    This is what? 1/3 of 1 year of underperformance and its not really even underperforming that bad. Everyone needs to chill out.
     
  15. Hekate

    Hekate Well-Known Member

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    That's really not a solution, though. Teams may play better for a while after it but it's short term. Players are due to get comfortable again and you can't keep firing coaches. That's how you end up as Kings.
     
  16. SoUjazzfan

    SoUjazzfan Well-Known Member

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    While I agree with most of this there are ways to get players out of their comfort zones. Play the young guys when a vet starts slacking. Reward hustle and effort. Chew some *** and call people out. Quin is doing none of this. As mentioned before, if Larry was still around you'd be hearing of some locker room visit from him, guaranteed.
     
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  17. JimLes

    JimLes Well-Known Member

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    What is the solution then? Trading everyone? Waiting to see if Snyder turns this ship around? We're banking a lot on the idea that Snyder is a world class coach and we couldn't get anyone better to replace him. I haven't seen much evidence of that over the past 5 years.
     
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  18. l Abach l

    l Abach l Well-Known Member

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    If Snyder is this mAsTeRmInD coach, then why didn't anybody else pick him up after he coached CSKA Moscow (lmao) and the Austin Toros... WoWW!! It's laughable that jazz nation say that he's one of the "best minds in the game", as if he's ****ing Popovich. Give me a break.
     
  19. Handlogten's Heros

    Handlogten's Heros Well-Known Member 2019 Award Winner

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    I've wanted him to do the sub in the G League guys for a while... had a chance to do it versus san Antonio which would have saved the legs of some of the starters for the back to back. Don't want to go to that well too often, but should go there sometimes. Pop has never been afraid to punt a game early and do this... I'm not sure how much of the blame pie Quin gets, but he certainly gets a slice.
     
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  20. LoPo

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    I don't want to blame Quin for Rudy's shortcomings, but I do blame Quin for running so many plays for him.

    Rudy is like a WR that runs one route. Well, when defenses game plan to stop that route, we got to look at other routes.

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