I'm Sensing Trading the 1st Round Pick for a Veteran

[gregbroncs]

How would we even go about trading for Conley now? All those expiring contracts we could have used to match salaries (Rubio, Udoh, Thabo) are now gone.

Aren't the Jazz like 25M under the cap now? So they don't have to match salaries.

 

[mellow]

It sounds like the Jazz front office agrees with you.

Sure they do...or Jazz are trying to drag the market down to make it easier to buy their way up.

 

[SCS]

I think that it will be in the trade package for Conley. And if the Jazz FO thinks this is a weak draft class, they would be correct.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Aren't the Jazz like 25M under the cap now? So they don't have to match salaries.

They can't do that until FA opens... not under the cap until then.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

If there is someone we really like this is a year I think we could jump into the back end of the lotto. I like the Garland kid, but he played like 4 games and I'm not even sure he will be there at 11-14ish... but if there is someone with awesome hand pads and balance this is a year that the price to move up may be doable.

 

[SCS]

Except Conley is the player DL may have been referring to as overpaid and a player to "win the press conference". At 31, he is set to have a Kyle Lowry type scoring dropoff.

Lowry at 31 (Conleys current age): 22.4 ppg
32: 16.2 ppg
33: 14.2 ppg

Anyone want to pay Conley 34 million for 14 ppg?

The Jazz have to take a chance in order to move the needle. Conley only has two years left on his deal and his contract doesn't effect our ability to keep our core long-term. It would be a low risk move if a better option isn't available. So yes I would be okay paying him 34 mill

 

[Jingled]

I'm honestly not even sure we'd be able to get Conley. Is Favors, Exum and a first round pick really enough to get it done? I kind of doubt it.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I'm honestly not even sure we'd be able to get Conley. Is Favors, Exum and a first round pick really enough to get it done? I kind of doubt it.

I get the feeling from what I've seen that Conley trade can't be done prior to the draft. I thought we could just guarantee Favs and then use his salary, but I'm not sure that is how it works.

If it did they could route Favs to Charlotte for Biyombo and stuff... Maybe Monk, maybe a better pick (if we sent 23 to charlotte then we route 12 to Memphis).

If it happens here is how I think it will... We go to free agency and don't get Harris... we waive Favors... we move Exum, Korver, Bradley and our 2020 pick (better draft?) for Conley... we make up the delta between the salaries with a good chunk of our space. They save about $17M and can get closer to the salary cap floor, which I assume they will operate near next year. Would leave us with about $16M left to do our other business, as well as the room exception. Likely enough to get one or a couple of guys in the Rudy Gay, Niko, Danny Green, Trevor Ariza, Aminu, Ellington, Jamichael Green... don't think it'd be enough to get Bogdonovic… but you could waive Neto and get to 17M in space... maybe nab him on a 4/75M type deal, but it'd be kind of a funky fit at that point.

 

[Jingled]

If it happens here is how I think it will... We go to free agency and don't get Harris... we waive Favors... we move Exum, Korver, Bradley and our 2020 pick (better draft?) for Conley... we make up the delta between the salaries with a good chunk of our space. They save about $17M and can get closer to the salary cap floor, which I assume they will operate near next year. Would leave us with about $16M left to do our other business, as well as the room exception. Likely enough to get one or a couple of guys in the Rudy Gay, Niko, Danny Green, Trevor Ariza, Aminu, Ellington, Jamichael Green... don't think it'd be enough to get Bogdonovic… but you could waive Neto and get to 17M in space... maybe nab him on a 4/75M type deal, but it'd be kind of a funky fit at that point.

I'm still not sure that would be enough. I'm not sure the Grizzlies new GM will have any interest in Exum. I think there's a good chance they would want two first round picks.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I'm still not sure that would be enough. I'm not sure the Grizzlies new GM will have any interest in Exum. I think there's a good chance they would want two first round picks.

I just don't think that deal is out there for them. They will have to take back some money because no one is able to take back that much salary for nothing. Maybe the Lakers after they strike out offer a pick and Ball or something like that. Maybe SA but salary matching is tough there and they have young guys coming up. I just doubt someone is giving two picks unless Grizz take back awful salary.

Some of there stuff depends on if their pick conveys or if they land Zion in the lotto. I think either way they will have major incentive to tank next year.

 

[One Brow]

I get the feeling from what I've seen that Conley trade can't be done prior to the draft. I thought we could just guarantee Favs and then use his salary, but I'm not sure that is how it works.

We can guarantee Favors early, if Favors/Exum works under the trade rules.

 

[LoPo]

If the Griz pick ends up inside the top 8, they keep it which means their 2020 pick likely goes to Boston. If that's the case, they shouldn't trade Conley. There is no incentive to be bad if they don't have their 2020 pick. Trading Conley for expirings and our pick makes zero sense.

Now if the Memphis pick ends up 9th or later, their 2019 pick goes to Boston which means they probably do anything to dump Conley's huge deal so they can go full tank for the 2020 draft. Parsons expires next summer and they would have a clear cap and a high pick and JJJr.





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