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I'm writing a research paper on the 1996-97 season for the Jazz

Had an argument with my kid's junior high teacher. She had given a number of bad scores to students, including my daughter,on a paper citing plagiarism because all pieces of historical information must be cited. I pointed out using several scholarly references that any piece of information that would be included in an encyclopedia is considered "general knowledge" for high school work and doesn't need to be cited. Once the kid has appropriate coursework in college the rules are different. I took two semesters of such coursework (just proper citing technique) and it was rigorous. Obviously to expect 8th graders to hold to that standard was ridiculous. I gave her 4 different standard educational rubrics pointing this out.

She flipped out citing her "Years of education" and that "she knows what the rules are!" I just asked her to read the papers I gave her and reconsider.

Two days later she sent home a letter to all students outlining the new policy for citing work, exactly as I had laid it out to her. I never said another word about it, but my wife sent her cookies. All fences have been mended and she enjoyed the rest of the year with my daughter and is currently a good teacher for my son.

I then had to explain to my daughter what the hell an "encyclopedia" was.
 
framer said:
Had an argument with my kid's junior high teacher. She had given a number of bad scores to students, including my daughter,on a paper citing plagiarism because all pieces of historical information must be cited. I pointed out using several scholarly references that any piece of information that would be included in an encyclopedia is considered "general knowledge" for high school work and doesn't need to be cited. Once the kid has appropriate coursework in college the rules are different. I took two semesters of such coursework (just proper citing technique) and it was rigorous. Obviously to expect 8th graders to hold to that standard was ridiculous. I gave her 4 different standard educational rubrics pointing this out.

She flipped out citing her "Years of education" and that "she knows what the rules are!" I just asked her to read the papers I gave her and reconsider.

Two days later she sent home a letter to all students outlining the new policy for citing work, exactly as I had laid it out to her. I never said another word about it, but my wife sent her cookies. All fences have been mended and she enjoyed the rest of the year with my daughter and is currently a good teacher for my son.

I then had to explain to my daughter what the hell an "encyclopedia" was.
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Hasn't citing changed dramatically over the last decade with advent of the internet as both a useful and terrible tool for research? I'd certainly have to look up proper citing techniques should I ever have to write a paper again.
 
framer said:
Had an argument with my kid's junior high teacher. She had given a number of bad scores to students, including my daughter,on a paper citing plagiarism because all pieces of historical information must be cited. I pointed out using several scholarly references that any piece of information that would be included in an encyclopedia is considered "general knowledge" for high school work and doesn't need to be cited. Once the kid has appropriate coursework in college the rules are different. I took two semesters of such coursework (just proper citing technique) and it was rigorous. Obviously to expect 8th graders to hold to that standard was ridiculous. I gave her 4 different standard educational rubrics pointing this out.

She flipped out citing her "Years of education" and that "she knows what the rules are!" I just asked her to read the papers I gave her and reconsider.

Two days later she sent home a letter to all students outlining the new policy for citing work, exactly as I had laid it out to her. I never said another word about it, but my wife sent her cookies. All fences have been mended and she enjoyed the rest of the year with my daughter and is currently a good teacher for my son.

I then had to explain to my daughter what the hell an "encyclopedia" was.
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What did you tell her - it's Wiki for old dudes?
 
Darkwing Duck said:
Hasn't citing changed dramatically over the last decade with advent of the internet as both a useful and terrible tool for research? I'd certainly have to look up proper citing techniques should I ever have to write a paper again.
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Nah, there are websites that will build your MLA citations for you now. With some of them, all you need to do is give them a URL. . .
 
Darkwing Duck said:
Ask your teacher why APA or MLA isn't being followed.

https://www.academiccoachingandwrit...a-style-in-academic-writing-words-or-numerals

https://penandthepad.com/write-out-numbers-mla-format-1079.html

The point of a paper, especially in the academic sense, which is what pretty much all school papers are, is to be concise and easy to read. Spelling out everything before 100 does not break that flow, or in MLA's case, anything that can be written in two words. Spelling out something in the thousands makes it harder to read.

If I were to make a guess, your teacher wants the student to break out of the likely habit in message board speak of using numerals for every number even when the call might be for a written out word, so has you do everything.

At my age, I'd be raising quite a bit of hell at my teacher for requiring this. In high school, I'd just go with what's assigned to me.
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yeah I honestly don't give a damn lol
 
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