gregbroncs
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That's why I said may. I think their offense is even more non existent that ours. They are basically a one on one team with a ton of talent. If they had a real coach they should be top 5 in the west with that team.
In Defense of Corbin
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LunaticWolf
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Well, by your logic, neither Favors or Kanter should be playing well right now. They didn't get the minutes necessary to develop. They are constantly put in bad situations that don't allow them to perform. And they are pissed at their coach, and are ready to leave the team.
Those kind of players put up 20/20, right?
LunaticWolf
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Stifle Tower
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We agree on a lot of things, but not this one. Foye-Marvin-Watson: scoreless in the 1st half. Barely one week ago, the Tinsley-Marvin-Foye combo had gone scoreless for the entire game.
Marvin Williams: 1 pt or less in 3 of his previous 6 games (and scoreless in the 1st half)
Earl Waston: ok, we know he isn't a scorer. He "exploded" for 6 pts against Minnesota; 2 pts or less in all other games since.
Randy Foye: he was "lights out" against Atlanta and Charlotte, hitting 4-10 in both.
Why are these three starting together? I can understand Watson OR Foye. Someone has to run the team and Burks is not a starting PG. But why start them in the 2nd half when it's clear they're repeating their terrible performances of the past two weeks.
And Millsap is just coming back from an injury. As a coach, shouldn't you give him a quick rest midway through the 4th or a couple of minutes into OT? You know what happens when players get tired legs? They start missing FT's.
Apparently.
Franklin is the hardest guy on this board for me to tell when he's trolling. That's a compliment as I can usually see right through that stuff with ease.
I swear I don't know whether Franklin is a genius or he's just so damn inconsistent that he makes me think he's a brilliant troller. Oh well, I'll probably never know.
I swear I don't know whether Franklin is a genius or he's just so damn inconsistent that he makes me think he's a brilliant troller. Oh well, I'll probably never know.
Getting Traded
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Foye is streaky. But his game is offense, and when he's cold, you need to sit him.
gregbroncs
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Did I say any of those things? Please quote me if I did. Favors does not play enough because he is flat out better than Paul and Al. He is develping because he has talent and is learning despite lack of playing time. He could be developing much better if he was getting the minutes he already deserves. Favors and Kanter are already learning from their mistakes it's too damn bad our coach does not.
Umm.. yes.
Stifle Tower
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Nice negative rep, Lunatic. Can you show me where I said they were a top-4 team? I said they've underachieved. Jazz shouldn't be a fringe playoff team, in the 8th spot and headed towards the lottery instead of vying for a better spot.
Jazz should be as good as Denver (Iguodala, Gallinari, Lawson, Faried and Koufos). C'mon, that's not better than what Utah has - except for Ty starting the Invisible-3. I'd even say they should be CLOSE to Memphis: Grizzlies don't have the depth Utah does and Randolph is their AGING all-star. And the Jazz should certainly be better than Golden State. Or Houston. But Utah is backsliding, not playing well down the stretch. And a big part of that has to be put on Ty's head.
gregbroncs
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Haha .. I was just agreeing with your overall post.
gregbroncs
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BTW, for any of you Tyheads, just watch any other game. Almost every superstar gets a quick "blow" in the early 4th so they can come back fresh and finish the game. Ty should have subbed in Favors for 2-3 mins at some point.
And it was idiotic not to call for a foul before Milwaukee could launch a 3. Especially with a foul to give. 99% of coaches will tell their guys to foul, just to see what play has been set up or force the other coach to go to a 2nd option.
Yes, Ty isn't the one missing shots or playing bad defense. But this loss is on him!
Good point on why Sap may have missed late game FT's.
I don't know what you think the disagreement is though. I'm not a fan of any of these players getting significant minutes but I do understand why Corbin plays them a bit. Marvin's minutes are down the last nine games. Shouldn't we give Corbin props for using him less when he's been this ineffective?
My theory on why Earl plays at all is he's nothing but a placeholder until Mo returns. The Jazz and Corbin believe in stability and don't want to change the starting rotation dramatically only to dump on guys when he has to change it back after Mo returns. Take out Watson and you have to go with Burks-Carroll-Hayward just to advance the ball. I now agree with the argument that Mo-Carroll-Hayward should start after Mo comes back, but I'm not sure there's enough rebounding or shooting in that group and there's also a weakness at guarding opposing threes.
The talent growth of the young has no doubt surpassed the old guard. They're still making boneheaded mistakes though and that's something a good coach should bench them for doing. It'll be nice next season when all these questions are a thing of the past.
I got negged too. He called me a "common man".
DutchJazzer
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Foye, Tinsley, and Williams were only 0-9 against the Clippers.