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Interesting stats for the year

Darkwing Duck

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Here they are, in almost stream of consciousness.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/

First off, Jefferson's rebound numbers look much better than they seem on the eye test.

But to give all numbers for him on the leaderboard...

Jefferson was:

11th in minutes played
11th in Field Goals made
12th in Field Goal attempts
9th in total Offensive Rebounds
6th in total Defensive Rebounds
6th in total Rebounds
5th in total Blocks
T-17th in total Fouls
18th in total Points
8th in Rebounds Per Game
9th in Blocks Per Game
19th in Offensive Rebounding Percentage
16th in Defensive Rebounding Percentage
18th in total Rebounding Percentage
14th in Block Percentage
1st in Turnover Percentage (a positive stat)

Other guys that are still with the team that made the top twenty in categories:

Millsap was 10th in Field Goal Percentage
Harris was 16th in total Assists, 20th in total Turnovers, 11th in Assists Per Game, and 9th in Assist Percentage.

What surprised me was Jefferson getting up to 23.3% on his defensive rebounding. He was in the 21-22 percent range when I was watching 50 games in or so. It's not a great percentage. In fact, it's his worst in five years, but it's slightly better than it was earlier in the year. He should be at 25% at the least.

I think the defensive rebounding percentages tell a big story. No big should ever be under 20%, meaning all bigs should at least get one out of every five defensive rebound possibilities. Four of Utah bigs failed to get 20%, Millsap, Fesenko, Favors and Elson (Memo is excluded). When I checked last night, Favors was over 20%, but I guess fell under 20% with the Jazz after the 82nd game. Millsap, Favors, and Fesenko all round up to 20%, but given the majority of the minutes had two of these guys on the court, the bigs were rebounding defensively at a horrible rate. Kirilenko and Miles were average to below average for small forwards rebounding the ball. Leads to an image of rebounding ineptitude.

Positive stats I see:

Favors goes after the offensive glass. That's nice.

Jefferson doesn't turn the ball over much. A lot of that probably has to do with him shooting the ball when he touches it, but he still doesn't give away possessions.

Gordon Hayward ended up posting really good EFG% and TS% numbers. Top five on the team in both categories. Only Millsap fits in the same category for guys that played 1000 minutes.

Kirilenko would have been REALLY upset if there was a clause in his contract about a bonus for playing 2000 minutes. Played 1999.

Other things:

Miles really doesn't have a lot of positive stats that aren't volume stats, but we already knew that. Averaged one steal per game. That looks to be the best stat.

Jazz had 6 guys shoot 41% or lower, four of them regulars.

Fesenko and Elson shot 44% and 47.8%, respectively.

Only five guys played more than 70 games.

Jefferson played all 82. Watson played 80. Millsap played 76 (he only missed 6? Damn). And Hayward played 72, and I know some of those missed games were DNP-CDs.
 
I realize Jefferson has struggled at times defensively, but I don't really blame it all on him - the entire defensive philosophy of this team, or at least the way they executed it, seemed to suck for a large portion of the season.

However, if you would have told me one year ago that the Jazz would trade a couple picks and Koufos for a top 10 rebounder, top 10 shot blocker, a top 20 scorer AND he'd play ALL 82 games, then I would have been blown away and not have believed you.

I am happy with Al's progress and hope the Jazz find a way to make this team's defense more consistent.
 
I realize Jefferson has struggled at times defensively, but I don't really blame it all on him - the entire defensive philosophy of this team, or at least the way they executed it, seemed to suck for a large portion of the season.

However, if you would have told me one year ago that the Jazz would trade a couple picks and Koufos for a top 10 rebounder, top 10 shot blocker, a top 20 scorer AND he'd play ALL 82 games, then I would have been blown away and not have believed you.

I am happy with Al's progress and hope the Jazz find a way to make this team's defense more consistent.

Well put Mr. M but I need to share the love before giving you anymore reps!
 
Also I like the part where Darkwing Duck talks about Miles :) But all in all I picked Al Jefferson with my 3 pick on my fantasy league, so pick like 26 and he didn't let me down! Thanks big Al and I look forward to your growth over the summer and next year. Ps. the best move I made with my fantasy was trading Dwill. Ty Lawson, Josh Smith for D. Rose, Loul Deng, and Roy Hibbert! It was funny as soon as Dwill got traded to NJ. I had to get that man off my team like asap. P.s.s. I took 1st Yay. I just hope Ill beable to play in a jazzfanz league next year. Hopefully its espn and not Yahoo. Yahoo sucks to Espn!
 
Anyone have season totals on plus/minus? ESPN did not have it.

I would like to see how Big Al's stack up on the team. His stats are very hard to argue with but they do not seem to correlate with team wins or team performance, but mebbe I have it wrong. Plus/minus might be an indicator.
 
Gordie Chiesa was talking about Miles on the radio earlier today. He's of the opinion that Miles is as good as he'll ever get after 6 years in the league. If the Jazz keep him all he'll do is eat up a roster spot.
 
I realize Jefferson has struggled at times defensively, but I don't really blame it all on him - the entire defensive philosophy of this team, or at least the way they executed it, seemed to suck for a large portion of the season.

However, if you would have told me one year ago that the Jazz would trade a couple picks and Koufos for a top 10 rebounder, top 10 shot blocker, a top 20 scorer AND he'd play ALL 82 games, then I would have been blown away and not have believed you.

I am happy with Al's progress and hope the Jazz find a way to make this team's defense more consistent.

Dead on. He is entering his prime and I think he will only improve as the new jazz are retooled around him, Favors and Hayward. I look forward to seeing what they can do together after some time to gel and mature.
 
I attribute Jefferson and Millsap's poor rebounding percentage to too many minutes played. They're constantly having to fight fresher first string players for rebounds. Especially in the 2nd half of games

Big Al is a fighter but there is no way he should be 11th in the NBA in MPG.
 
Gordie Chiesa was talking about Miles on the radio earlier today. He's of the opinion that Miles is as good as he'll ever get after 6 years in the league. If the Jazz keep him all he'll do is eat up a roster spot.

I agree 100% with this... if anything he will stay the same for a few years and then start to get worse.
With any luck we can package him in a trade for something useful.
 
Gordie Chiesa was talking about Miles on the radio earlier today. He's of the opinion that Miles is as good as he'll ever get after 6 years in the league. If the Jazz keep him all he'll do is eat up a roster spot.

What does Chiesa know?

Gives Miles a couple of years and he will be an all star. He is still young. He is the Rip Hamilton of this team
 
What does Chiesa know?

Gives Miles a couple of years and he will be an all star. He is still young. He is the Rip Hamilton of this team

CJ would be very valuable if he could correct one thing: his shooting percentage. He needs to work at that all summer and skip the weights. He is big enough now. Just think how useful he would be if he shot say 44% overall and 38% from the 3? He has shown that he has quite a knack for getting off "good" shots, just too many do not go in. When did the Jazz last have a wing (outside of Hayward) who could create like CJ? A long time. He also needs some sort of personal strategy coach to help him with shot selection. Booner the other day was talking how much his stats would improve if he got one more layup per game. And one fewer 3 taken and missed would be a big help.

I say give him that as a summer project and one more year. He is cheap, and he is still young. If he was 6 years in and 28-29, then yes he has reached his limit. At his still young age, not so much. I know the frustration and I realize that he MUST shoot better. If he is on the team next year and the improvement is not there, limit his minutes and tell him to shoot less. He would be an acceptable backup for one year as we build around Favors and Hayward.
 
CJ would be very valuable if he could correct one thing: his shooting percentage. He needs to work at that all summer and skip the weights. He is big enough now. Just think how useful he would be if he shot say 44% overall and 38% from the 3?

CJ was on a very tight leash a few years ago and put up better numbers than that. The problem is I don't think there is anyone on The Jazz coaching staff to keep him on a tight leash and the kid just doesn't have it in the heart or the head to be a solid everyday player.

He's as good as he's going to get. I think The Jazz pick up his option and then look to move him.
 
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